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Old 07-03-2002, 08:10 AM
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I'm not 100% sure on what I think....but here is what I'll say.....

Sophia is the voice you hear at the very end of the movie...the very last 'open your eyes.' The accident is real, and therefore there seem to be only two points that are up for being the sleep point....the accident and the night after the club. Since I began this post I've changed my mind on where it's going to go...I think he may or may not have died in the crash, but that everything after it is a dream. Reason one, the very next scene he sees Sophia in the park and declares that he can never wake up...even the night of the club the nightmare seems to be present when he imagines Sophia and his buddy being together...thus I feel that is part of the dream and is prior to the second option of when his dream world began (and while it could simply be suspicion, I feel it is the nightmare beginning). I think as he's a completely self-righteous guy that's part of the reason in his nigthmare that his face was disfigured...

My thoughts are confused, but I'll leave with this...
He never woke up from the car wreck IMO, but he didn't die either...maybe Sophia was visiting him at the hospital after the crash...a part of the movie that had never come.....???
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Old 07-05-2002, 03:54 AM
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I watched the film again last night and your interpretation seems perfectly sound. Why didn't I realize these the first time? Thank you!
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Old 07-05-2002, 10:20 AM
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Maybe I need to watch this movie again. After reading everyone's posts it kind of makes me wonder...
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Old 07-05-2002, 12:31 PM
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In the movie the guy from the lucid dream place tells him that he chose the morning after the club as the place for his dream to start. In his dream sophia comes back for him (and they were able to fix his face) in real life he never sees her again and they even show a scene of his friends having a memorial party for him.
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Old 07-08-2002, 07:48 AM
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In the movie the guy from the lucid dream place tells him that he chose the morning after the club as the place for his dream to start. In his dream sophia comes back for him (and they were able to fix his face) in real life he never sees her again and they even show a scene of his friends having a memorial party for him.
If you take everything exactly for face value then, yes....but that makes for a dull movie, does it not?
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Old 07-08-2002, 12:05 PM
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We watched this on DVD last night, and I just didn't like it. It moved too slowly and I couldn't keep my attention focused.

I will say, however, that the director's commentary on the movie was enlightening. He discussed what he was actually trying to get across, and he even talked about the alternate theories viewers have come up with...which he encouraged, too.

BTW, according to Crowe the last "Open your eyes" was neither the voice of Penelope Cruz or Cameron Diaz. It was a third actress. Although it sounded like Cameron Diaz to me.
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Old 07-09-2002, 01:27 AM
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New thought. Virtually the entire film was a dream. As the first scene where David is driving to work turns out to be a dream. It is actually a nightmare in which the streets are empty. Then he wakes up next to Cameron.

I believe that the last "open your eyes" is the voice of Cameron Diaz, recalling the very first scene. The entire movie had been a dream. Even if it was the voice of a third woman. He could have dreamt everything about his success and good looks, sleeping with a beautiful actress, etc.
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Old 07-09-2002, 01:04 PM
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Hmmm, okay, Penelope's role confused me when Tech Support (in the elevator) said that she was generated from his memory based on other characters and other women, etc. and in fact he had not known her well in his actual life. So, how is it that they are in the club together reuniting after the accident? If that is real, why is he so enamored with and distraught over a woman he hardly knows (if that is the real life part)? That thoroughly confused me because I couldn't get how he could start his dream after the club IF she was never really in his life in the first place. That would negate the part where he stays over her house all night long, because he never knew her well. And, if that did not happen for real, how do they resolve his leaving her place and getting into the car crash?

I loved the premise of the movie, but the interwining tales just never seemed to come together at the end. And the explanation of a glitch in the system just did not suffice for such a complicated movie. And why, the hell would they need a third actress at the end, where's the closure? I guess I will have to rent the DVD to figure it out.
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Old 07-09-2002, 03:16 PM
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New thought. Virtually the entire film was a dream. As the first scene where David is driving to work turns out to be a dream. It is actually a nightmare in which the streets are empty. Then he wakes up next to Cameron.

I believe that the last "open your eyes" is the voice of Cameron Diaz, recalling the very first scene. The entire movie had been a dream. Even if it was the voice of a third woman. He could have dreamt everything about his success and good looks, sleeping with a beautiful actress, etc.
You know, I was thinking the same thing about it, but I wasn't totally sure about it. Not to mention I couldn't post about it because my damn keyboard was broken.

Watching that movie really reminds me of a short story that I have read maybe 1000 times and is probably one of my favorite writing pieces. It is called An Occurence at Owl Creek Bridge by Ambrose Bierce. I would suggest reading it, and if you do, let me know what you think about it, pm me, email me, something. It's a pretty tripped out story depending on how you view what is going on.
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