Election Day Thread

[DeltaBetaBaby]

Originally Posted by PiKA2001

Washington and Colorado legalized the production, distribution, and sale of marijuana for recreational use. Lawsuits from the DoJ to block the laws should start heading west in 3...2...1....

Really? Doesn't the administration have the power to tell the DoJ to stand down? There's a lot of speculation that Obama may do this, now that he is a second-termer.

[PiKA2001]

Originally Posted by DeltaBetaBaby

Really? Doesn't the administration have the power to tell the DoJ to stand down? There's a lot of speculation that Obama may do this, now that he is a second-termer.

Obama has a history of backing Holder big time and Holder has stated before that his DoJ is not ok with the legalization of marijuana and will go after states that do legalize it for recreational purposes. From a law enforcement prospective, these laws will create some major problems since MJ is still considered an illegal substance by the Fed Gov and in all of the other states.

How will law enforcement stop someone from obtaining 20lbs of MJ in Vancouver, WA and just driving south to Portland, OR and selling it on the streets? Or better yet, someone who's from CO drives down for a weekend in Santa Fe and gets pulled over by NM state trooper with a bag of MJ?

[Mevara]

Originally Posted by PiKA2001

How will law enforcement stop someone from obtaining 20lbs of MJ in Vancouver, WA and just driving south to Portland, OR and selling it on the streets? Or better yet, someone who's from CO drives down for a weekend in Santa Fe and gets pulled over by NM state trooper with a bag of MJ?

Wouldn't this scenario be the same for states where MJ is legal for medical use and then they drive to another state where it is illegal?

[PeppyGPhiB]

Originally Posted by Mevara

Wouldn't this scenario be the same for states where MJ is legal for medical use and then they drive to another state where it is illegal?

Ah, but crossing state lines makes it a federal issue. What if the marijuana law is written so that it can't be transported across state lines?

[Mevara]

Originally Posted by PeppyGPhiB

Ah, but crossing state lines makes it a federal issue. What if the marijuana law is written so that it can't be transported across state lines?

Does it really have to be that specific? Once you leave that state you are out of their jurisdiction so the laws no longer apply. I was just trying to make a point to PiKA2001 that whether or not MJ is recreational or medical the same rules of crossing state lines applies.

[PiKA2001]

Originally Posted by Mevara

Wouldn't this scenario be the same for states where MJ is legal for medical use and then they drive to another state where it is illegal?

Yes but medical MJ and recreational MJ are two different topics and I don't think it's fair to say, "well, medical MJ cardholders can do this...why can't Joe Smith do it?"


Very interesting article here about how Mexico may stop interdicting drugs headed into the United States illegally because of the two US states that legalized MJ. Wasn't one of the main arguments against AZ's immigration bill is that AZ's bill meddled in the diplomatic relationship between the US and MX? Sorry, but I really can't see the DoJ just letting this go through as voted on.

http://www.elpasotimes.com/election/...fight-after-us

The main adviser to Mexico's president-elect said Wednesday that votes legalizing recreational marijuana in the U.S. states of Washington and Colorado will force Mexico and the United States to rethink their efforts to halt marijuana smuggling across the border.
Luis Videgaray, head of incoming President Enrique Pena Nieto's transition team, told Radio Formula that the Mexican administration taking power in three weeks remains opposed to drug legalization. But he said the votes in the two states complicate his country's commitment to quashing the growing and smuggling of a plant now seen by many as legal in part of the U.S.
"These important modifications change somewhat the rules of the game in the relationship with the United States," Videgaray said. "I think that we have to carry out a review of our joint policies in regard to drug trafficking and security in general."

"Obviously we can't handle a product that is illegal in Mexico, trying to stop its transfer to the United States, when in the United States, at least in part of the United States, it now has a different status," Videgaray said. "I believe this obliges us to rethink the relationship in regards to security ... This is an unforeseen element."
The Obama administration has said little about how it will handle pot legalization in the two states.

[ASTalumna06]

My friend's status update today:

"Last night, I made a bowl of Romney noodles Obama self."

iChuckled.