The Debates- 2012

[honeychile]

I didn't get to see the debates at all - my mil "needed" to be taken to dinner. I did, however, get my jollies today. On the local CBS affiliate, the perky, bright-eyed newscaster said, "According to the polls with likely voters, Joe Biden won the debate with 50%."

Obviously, she was not a math major, and there were some shenanigans going on. It made my day, however!

[LAblondeGPhi]

Originally Posted by honeychile

I didn't get to see the debates at all - my mil "needed" to be taken to dinner. I did, however, get my jollies today. On the local CBS affiliate, the perky, bright-eyed newscaster said, "According to the polls with likely voters, Joe Biden won the debate with 50%."

Obviously, she was not a math major, and there were some shenanigans going on. It made my day, however!

I read that poll and thought the same thing, but 19% of people thought Ryan and Biden tied, and only 31% thought Ryan won.

[PiKA2001]

^^ Beat me to it.

Originally Posted by honeychile

I didn't get to see the debates at all - my mil "needed" to be taken to dinner. I did, however, get my jollies today. On the local CBS affiliate, the perky, bright-eyed newscaster said, "According to the polls with likely voters, Joe Biden won the debate with 50%."

Obviously, she was not a math major, and there were some shenanigans going on. It made my day, however!

It might have been Biden with 50%, Ryan with 40%, 10% undecided.

[cheerfulgreek]

I recorded the most recent debate, but I haven't watched it, yet. My thoughts on the first debate between Romney and Obama: I thought Romney clearly won the visuals of the debate. I mean, he communicated clearly, he was confident and poised, and he appeared "Presidential". It's just that his arguments, however, were typical Romney, full of untruths and half-truths. His move to the center was just another attempt to etch-a-sketch his way to the presidency and another example of how unprincipled a man he really is.

[AGDee]

As governor of Massachusetts, Romney was very much in the center. That's pretty much the only way a Republican can lead a very Democratic state like MA. They are one of the most liberal states in the nation. He's actually pandering more to the conservatives during this election. I would have liked him more if he'd stay true to his original "moderateness".

The biggest irony I find with him is the health care reform issue. Obamacare was modeled after what Massachusetts did under Romney. Romney endorsed it. But he says it isn't good for the rest of the country and states should do it on their own. There are aspects of it, like being able to sell insurance across state lines, that can't happen if it isn't done on a national level.

What was most troublesome to me about last night's debate was Ryan's comments about foreign policy that seemed to indicate that we should be taking more military action in the Middle East with Iran, Syria, etc. While I think we need to be watchful over things like Iran's developing a nuclear program, I want to see my tax dollars taking care of the huge issues we have at home. We don't need another Iraq.

[PiKA2001]

Originally Posted by AGDee

As governor of Massachusetts, Romney was very much in the center. That's pretty much the only way a Republican can lead a very Democratic state like MA. They are one of the most liberal states in the nation. He's actually pandering more to the conservatives during this election. I would have liked him more if he'd stay true to his original "moderateness".

Romney is very much a moderate but the devil with politics is that as a nominee you have to at least give some lip service to the party platform. Does that make him "unprincipled"? I don't believe so....he's just politicking. I like that his main focus is going to on the economy, creating more jobs and opportunities for business instead of creating some massive entitlement that sink us financially faster than Medicare and social security combined.

I do find some irony that people on the left refer to Mitt's "moderateness" as though its bad and that voters should run from especially when he was the last choice for the tea party, conservative crowds. Just be grateful that its Romney and not Bachmann, Cain, or Santorum that has a 50% chance of getting elected next month to lead this country.

[TonyB06]

Mitt Romney has held so many positions over the years that calling him a "moderate" is a concession to civility, at best.

Were he to be elected by the money of the Koch brothers and the impetus of the Tea Party and the birthers, they would most definitely call the tunes for him.

In short, they'd walk him like a dog.

[PiKA2001]

Originally Posted by TonyB06

Mitt Romney has held so many positions over the years that calling him a "moderate" is a concession to civility, at best.

Were he to be elected by the money of the Koch brothers and the impetus of the Tea Party and the birthers, they would most definitely call the tunes for him.

In short, they'd walk him like a dog.

Oh rly? So if Obama was to be reelected by the money of George Soros and the impetus of the occupy anarchists, would they most definitely call the tunes for Obama? No, the democratic politicians are totally not about that, that's just a republican thing, right?