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Old 09-14-2012, 08:11 PM
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I think the reason these allergies are popping up because kids 1) aren't going outside as much when they are younger and 2) are eating different foods than we did. I know my parents made me eat whatever they prepare and I'm sure there are a lot of parents that feed kids whatever they want in order to pacify them.

My county has required that all staff members receive epi-pen training for allergic reactions. Anaphylaxis is no joke- a child can easily die if you don't know what to do. At the middle and high school level, kids are mixed in and are pretty aware of what they can't be around. At the elementary level, we have tables that are nut-free in the cafeteria.

One thing that I have seen more and more often now are students who have Crohn's disease. I had a volleyball player who had it last year and missed most of the season due to the symptoms being so sever and having to go in for infusion shots. Crohn's is one of those things that can really keep you out of school and is super embarrassing for the kids. My mother has it and has it relatively in control through medication, but with students going through puberty and their bodies changing, it can take a very long time before its relatively in control.

Students at my school are aware of what they can't be around, but that may not happen at the elementary school level. The schools are trying to cover their behinds by being safe. It's the same thing with zero-tolerance for drugs, alcohol, and weapons. You are there to be guardians and ensure the safety of children for 7-8 hours a day.
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Old 09-14-2012, 08:24 PM
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I think the reason these allergies are popping up because kids 1) aren't going outside as much when they are younger and 2) are eating different foods than we did. I know my parents made me eat whatever they prepare and I'm sure there are a lot of parents that feed kids whatever they want in order to pacify them.
I'm in this camp. There was a section on this in an infectious diseases class of mine (well it's not quite infectious, but it's slightly relevant), and the basic conclusion was that parents aren't exposing kids to enough substances during the window of time where their body can learn to handle it. Everything is sanitized, sterilized, gluten-free, etc. and some kids aren't developing the antibodies they need at the fault of overprotective parents. Basically, let your kids eat dirt, and stop applying Purell to every non-porous surface they touch. Make them have a variety of food, even if it's just a little bit. Remove them from their plastic bubble.
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Old 09-15-2012, 08:49 AM
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I think the reason these allergies are popping up because kids 1) aren't going outside as much when they are younger and 2) are eating different foods than we did. I know my parents made me eat whatever they prepare and I'm sure there are a lot of parents that feed kids whatever they want in order to pacify them.
I don't buy that. It would be one thing if the allergies developed around the same age uniformly, but they don't. I ate what was in front of my plate and it didn't stop me from having food allergies; I went outside all the time, and run about 20 miles a week now, and I've always had environmental allergies, even as a tiny kid. My parents are outdoorsy types, so it wasn't that I was holed up inside the house. My grandmother developed a very severe shellfish allergy in her late 20s, after her first pregnancy and after a lifetime of eating shellfish. So, while I'm sure it's cute to blame the increased prevalence of allergies on overprotective parents, it's not the case.

This is probably an extreme case, but every so often I go in for my allergen testing. Each year I have a reaction to a different allergen that I didn't have an issue to the previous years. I wonder if kids are reacting to the allergen in the skin tests, where they wouldn't necessarily present symptoms in real life. That triggers the allergy notifications and it's all downhill from there.

While peanut reactions are the most common food allergy death, they're still pretty rare. Because of the 24-hour news cycle, increased parental education/awareness of issues, and the fear of litigation, we're just hearing a lot more about it.
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Old 09-15-2012, 09:44 AM
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These stories are surprising. It just doesn't seem logical that someone could react to the scent of peanuts (outside of a psychosomatic reaction). I could understand it if someone were cracking open peanut shells and letting dust into the air.

With so many children developing allergies from lack of exposure to certain foods, are there not options for controlling the allergy instead of reacting to it with epinephrine?
Researchers are working like crazy on a vaccination for those with peanut allergies. At this point, the goal is to delay or lessen the reaction to allow time to get treatment for the symptoms.

My daughter had allergy shots for all of her environmental allergies, but with the severe reaction to a tiny amount of allergen, it wasn't an option for the peanut allergy. Her last "peanut exposure" that gave her a reaction requiring epinephrine and IV steroids was from eating half a cashew that, it turned out, was roasted in peanut oil.
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Old 09-15-2012, 10:59 AM
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We don't suffer from nut allergies at our house; however I do suffer from other severe allergies. I've experienced anaphylaxis several times in my life. It sucks.

There's nothing more irritating to me than when people believe that I am overreacting or that it's all in my head. I feel for these kids and these parents. I would never want to do anything to make a child sick. I happily comply with th peanut-free guidelines at my daughter's school. It's not as if keeping peanut products only for at home is a huge and unbearable inconvenience.

I hear parents complain about how how it wasn't a problem when we were kids. So what? It is a problem now for whatever reason. Think of the guilt one would feel if he/she were responsible for a child going into shock and dying because of a peanut butter sandwich.

I'm fairly certain that throughout history medical conditions have evolved that "didn't use to be a problem." Denial of the condition or disease won't make it go away.
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Old 09-15-2012, 02:01 PM
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There have always been SOME children with allergies, even if they grow up in a very outdoorsy situation, but what we're seeing now is different. It's SO many kids with the same allergy. And call me crazy or knee-jerking, but the schools I hear about that institute peanut bans are usually in middle to upper class neighborhoods.

What hit home to me was the person in the article who said that some autistic kids will only eat PB & J. My friend's daughter is autistic and on a special diet besides. She can't have gluten or soy, but my friend isn't trying to ban those things from the school.

You have to tell your child that they WILL NOT trade food - just like they WILL NOT play with matches.
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Old 09-16-2012, 04:44 PM
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There have always been SOME children with allergies, even if they grow up in a very outdoorsy situation, but what we're seeing now is different. It's SO many kids with the same allergy. And call me crazy or knee-jerking, but the schools I hear about that institute peanut bans are usually in middle to upper class neighborhoods.
I think you're right, I also think that there are a few factors behind that that might apply to kids today in general and that we hear about these things happening in more affluent areas because that's what's covered in the media.

One is that kids go to the doctor more often. My parents were always insured; they just never took us to the doctor outside of symptom-specific information. It wasn't until I was an adult with my own insurance that I had a full allergy panel, even though I had been diagnosed with asthma at like 7. My parents aren't uneducated or poor; they just didn't see the need in our going to the doctor when it wasn't necessary. My sister, on the other hand, has her kids take an annual physical above and beyond the one they need as athletes. As a result, they have a lot more diagnoses than we had. None of them are serious or life-threatening, but my sister is a lot more aware of their health challenges. I'm going to chalk that one up to being generational.

For better or worse, there's just a heck of a lot more information out there about allergies, and there's always good old Dr. Google to make people even more neurotic. I remember when I was diagnosed with asthma, my pediatrician told my parents to take it seriously because childhood asthma is often perceived as being faked or not that serious in some black communities; as a result, the death rate among black kids with asthma is much higher than among white kids. I'm not sure if a pediatrician would tell a mother that today, for obvious reasons; that same mother today, however, would probably go to WebMD or Google to supplement whatever the doctor told her.

Also, like I mentioned upthread, you can test for sensitivities for allergens without ever having presented symptoms; as a result, the diagnosis can shock people into action that may be unnecessary. Not only do wealthier families take their kids to doctors more regularly, they'll be more apt to visit specialists who, with insurance co-pays, can cost twice as much as a PCP.

Finally, there's just straight up fear of litigation. I suspect this fear is more common in affluent areas and schools/parents will make a bigger deal about it. I think that a lot of private schools did this first because it's easier to make a decision like this at the single-school level.
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