Stop the "Baby" Talk

[DeltaBetaBaby]

I think the better question is: who has ever seen apparel with an NPC crest that wasn't fugly? Outside of D9 and D9-style line jackets, I don't know really think of the crest as an accessory.

[AZTheta]

Originally Posted by DeltaBetaBaby

I think the better question is: who has ever seen apparel with an NPC crest that wasn't fugly? Outside of D9 and D9-style line jackets, I don't know really think of the crest as an accessory.

*raises hand* I have! Some of the actives wear 1/4 zip sweatshirts or fleece with a very small coat of arms embroidered on the left side, and our letters embroidered on the back of the collar. Very subtle and classy. Not at all fugly. And a lot better than some of the tanks and tshirts that we see in photos here.

I've also seen a simple black cardigan with the coat of arms embroidered (again, small and tasteful). Maybe it's because Theta has black and gold so it isn't gaudy?

Point of info: for Theta, it is a complete coat of arms that you will always see. The eagle is the crest and is not to be separated from the rest.

[MaryPoppins]

Originally Posted by AzTheta

Some of the actives wear 1/4 zip sweatshirts or fleece with a very small coat of arms embroidered on the left side, and our letters embroidered on the back of the collar.

Would love to share that look with my Collegians!

[AZTheta]

Originally Posted by MaryPoppins

Would love to share that look with my Collegians!

I'll pm you! Although does it ever get cold enough there? It does here, at night/early morning in Jan/Feb.

[HQWest]

I have seen some nice T-shirts that have just the outline of the sorority crest either white or gold in relief on a dark blue or black. It was very striking.

[AZTheta]

Originally Posted by HQWest

I have seen some nice T-shirts that have just the outline of the sorority crest either white or gold in relief on a dark blue or black. It was very striking.

That sounds really classy too. I'll do a search for that style.

As for jewelry, MysticCat, kaokite has a gold coat of arms pendant that is spectacular. I have always envied the PiPhi badge guards that are their COA. I think other GLOs have COA badge guards also.

But frankly, I can't see wearing COA earrings or anything of that nature. That would be ... fugly!

[MysticCat]

Originally Posted by AzTheta

But frankly, I can't see wearing COA earrings or anything of that nature. That would be ... fugly!

Not even big dangly ones? In color? I think that could be quite a look. Quite a look indeed.

No? Well, I was thinking more along the lines of pendants anyway.

[MaryPoppins]

Originally Posted by AzTheta

I'll pm you! Although does it ever get cold enough there? It does here, at night/early morning in Jan/Feb.

It gets into the teens and snows here believe it or not! Worst of all, we get a damp cold, due to our native humidity, that seeps into your bones.

[Gusteau]

Originally Posted by AzTheta

*raises hand* I have! Some of the actives wear 1/4 zip sweatshirts or fleece with a very small coat of arms embroidered on the left side, and our letters embroidered on the back of the collar. Very subtle and classy. Not at all fugly. And a lot better than some of the tanks and tshirts that we see in photos here.

My sister has a similar sweatshirt - it's really cute! It's a light grey 1/4 zip with ZTA over the heart and the coat of arms on the back. The Gamma Phis on my campus had similar ones too.

Originally Posted by AzTheta

Point of info: for Theta, it is a complete coat of arms that you will always see. The eagle is the crest and is not to be separated from the rest.

I <3 you, and so does heraldry.

Originally Posted by MysticCat

Not even big dangly ones? In color? I think that could be quite a look. Quite a look indeed.

No? Well, I was thinking more along the lines of pendants anyway.

I vote for the earrings...

[MysticCat]

Originally Posted by DeltaBetaBaby

I think the better question is: who has ever seen apparel with an NPC crest that wasn't fugly? Outside of D9 and D9-style line jackets, I don't know really think of the crest as an accessory.

LOL. Valid question.

But what about jewelry and the like? The buttons on my navy blazer have our coat of arms on them. Of course, you have to look really closely to tell that's the design.

[lovespink88]

Originally Posted by DeltaBetaBaby

I think the better question is: who has ever seen apparel with an NPC crest that wasn't fugly? Outside of D9 and D9-style line jackets, I don't know really think of the crest as an accessory.

Really? I absolutely LOVE, LOVE, LOVE apparel with coat of arms on them! My favorite AXiD shirt, which I still have, is a plain white v-neck with our letters in black on the front top left and our coat of arms across the whole back. It's super pretty. I've also seen this one in person and I WANT it: http://www.xiboutique.org/store.cfm/...oil-sweatshirt

My old roommate had a Pi Phi sweater similar to what AZ Theta mentioned, and it was also really pretty. I'm a big fan of the coat of arms on apparel.

[ASTalumna06]

Originally Posted by DeltaBetaBaby

I think the better question is: who has ever seen apparel with an NPC crest that wasn't fugly? Outside of D9 and D9-style line jackets, I don't know really think of the crest as an accessory.

I have! I've actually seen quite a few items, one of which I own. When I was an advisor for my chapter, they ordered black hoodies with green lettering. On the front it reads:

Alpha Sigma Tau
Penn State Behrend

And on the back, all in that same green, is our coat-of-arms. Simple but nice.

I've also recently come across a few AST coat-of-arms clothing items online that looked good. But I have also seen some VERY fugly coat-of-arms items in my day as well.

It's probably harder for some groups to find decent clothing items, as elaborate designs - and animals, especially - can sometimes look weird.

[ASTalumna06]

Originally Posted by WhiteRose1912

I think for apparel it looks better flattened to single color than displayed in full silver, gold, and blue.

I think this is key - keeping it simple. One color for the shirt, and another for the coat-of-arms.

When things get complicated, that's usually when it gets fugly.

[naraht]

For a comparison of what some other groups have done (and showing that "Ferns" (as one person suggested) isn't *that* strange)...

Back in the 1970s, for the NPHC, their pledge classes were actually separate clubs (not that sure of why). Because of this, there were fairly standard terms for the pledges. For example, for Alpha Phi Alpha, the pledge club was the Sphinx Club, so pledges were sometimes referred to as Sphinxes.
For the other 8
Alpha Kappa Alpha - Ivy Leaf Club
Phi Beta Sigma - Crescent Club
Zeta Phi Beta - Archonian Club
Omega Psi Phi - Lampados Club
Delta Sigma Theta - Pyramid Club
Kappa Alpha Psi - Scrollers Club
Sigma Gamma Rho - Aurora Club
Iota Phi Theta - Centaur Club

(Other smaller Historically black fraternities, another other fraternities adopting terminology on HBCUs also had clubs.

[Gamma Xi Phi]

Originally Posted by naraht

For a comparison of what some other groups have done (and showing that "Ferns" (as one person suggested) isn't *that* strange)...

Back in the 1970s, for the NPHC, their pledge classes were actually separate clubs (not that sure of why). Because of this, there were fairly standard terms for the pledges. For example, for Alpha Phi Alpha, the pledge club was the Sphinx Club, so pledges were sometimes referred to as Sphinxes.
For the other 8
Alpha Kappa Alpha - Ivy Leaf Club
Phi Beta Sigma - Crescent Club
Zeta Phi Beta - Archonian Club
Omega Psi Phi - Lampados Club
Delta Sigma Theta - Pyramid Club
Kappa Alpha Psi - Scrollers Club
Sigma Gamma Rho - Aurora Club
Iota Phi Theta - Centaur Club

(Other smaller Historically black fraternities, another other fraternities adopting terminology on HBCUs also had clubs.

Alpha Phi Alpha pledges were called Sphinxmen, not Sphinxes.