University of Southern California Recruitment

[28StGreek]

Originally Posted by Titchou

You obvioulsy are not Greek

Oh darling, bless your heart.

[AZTheta]

1) kaeb's join date is July 2010. Not sure that qualifies as a long-time poster. I don't consider myself a long-time poster.

2) kaeb has admittedly never participated in formal recruitment and is not familiar with the MOI, RFM, etc.

3) MY OPINION: Repeating hearsay and gossip is NOT Panhellenic in spirit, and is harmful to all parties involved. I will not stand for that and will speak up and call it out when I see it. For starters, you can't ever unring that bell; and there are going to be people who'll say "I heard that" or "I happen to know that" and perpetuate rumors as fact. This is not good for individual chapters, or for the system as a whole. It is hurtful and can cause a chapter to wither and die. I've seen it happen more than once. We should NOT be attacking other chapters or speculating on any situation without knowing specifics. How is this helpful?

4) Panhellenic officers and RCs should not be discussing confidential matters with non-Panhellenic officers and anyone else. This troubles me. We need to have confidence in those who've been elected to serve all chapters.

5) I have sent an email to inquire about QAs being restricted as a "punishment" and if I get an answer I will share it. I'm not even going to venture a guess on this.

5) Bottom line up front: this is all ridiculous. We all need to step back (me included) or this thread will be locked. I personally am quite thrilled with the health of the USC greek system and offer congratulations to all the chapters. I can't wait to see the Presents photos this year!

aside: ellebud, check your email in a couple of hours, please. long overdue news coming your way...

[APhi4Ever]

Originally Posted by ellebud

If you can't say something constructive and/or civil because you don't like that it interferes with your concept of Panhellenic, or your little corner of the earth...stop. Think. And don't be a b*****

....now I will have my morning coffee.

This just makes me laugh, can I use it as a quote?

[Titchou]

I took her comment about not knowing anything about RFM, Quota, etc to mean she wasn't Greek. Sorry I misunderstood. As for what the MOI says, I'm out of the copy and paste business. All npc members can get a copy thru their web site or NPC delegate.

[kaeb]

Originally Posted by Titchou

No, ma'am, it has NOTHING to do with being under campus total before recruitment!

I thought that's what quota additions were? To get houses who weren't at total to quota? My apologies.

Originally Posted by Titchou

You obvioulsy are not Greek

Darn my Angle-Saxon/Germanic heritage. Good thing my sisters love me for who I am, even if I am not, in fact, ethnically Greek... (not that I've ever pretended to be) That is what you mean, right? Because I'm pretty sure I am a part of the Greek system here at USC—unless I've hallucinated my new member period, my initiation, the important positions I hold and have held in my house, and the amazing moments of sisterhood I've experienced—in which case I would hopefully be getting help, and not be on Greekchat.

Originally Posted by Titchou

Are you HartofSec's sock puppet??????

No. I don't think I've ever read one of HartofSec's posts (I'm guessing he/she posts mostly about the SEC? I'm all about the PAC-12, myself!). I do love that this is the second time I've been accused of being a sock puppet account for posting anything about USC, though. Clearly I forged my join date of two years ago, and my 170 posts (which admittedly aren't that many, but enough to be a nuisance to create out of thin air) were all added after the fact...

Now for an en masse apology.

I'm sorry. As you can see, I've retracted my statements about quota etc at USC. It was not my place to share them, but I came from a well-intentioned place. I do not want my friends to get in trouble for this, whatever I should not have shared but did is my fault. To defend them, I don't think anything they told me was confidential—it was just things that are not common knowledge, for whatever reason. (And I delineate between confidential and not common knowledge as such: confidential things are things people shouldn't know, for a legitimate reason, and things that are not common knowledge are things people just don't know because they haven't been told, e.g. that 10 members of a house's exec board are allowed to move into their sorority's house a day before the rest of the sorority can, or that chapter are allowed to correct one computer mistake, etc). The fact that houses get caught dirty rushing is not a secret, as the consequences of it are visible every year in one way or another.

[ladybug12]

2) kaeb has admittedly never participated in formal recruitment and is not familiar with the MOI, RFM, etc.

kaeb has participated in formal recruitment at USC. She wrote her recruitment story...

[Titchou]

And thanks to AZTheta for such a logical post. And to KAEB, I did go off the deep end but we do not talk about individual NPCgroups here in a negative light. That's considered bad form. And when it's mine, I get particularly testy.

[kaeb]

Originally Posted by Titchou

we do not talk about individual NPCgroups here in a negative light. That's considered bad form. And when it's mine, I get particularly testy.

Wait, when did I do this?

[BlueOwl]

kaeb has been a great poster! She does not deserve to be snarked at! As a West Coast resident with strong panhellenic roots in Los Angeles, I have enjoyed and appreciated her current college experience contributions here on GC. So much of what is posted on GC comes from a southern perspective, which is very interesting and enjoyable to read. But we need to appreciate our west coast posters too!

[Hartofsec]

Originally Posted by Titchou

I took her comment about not knowing anything about RFM, Quota, etc to mean she wasn't Greek. Sorry I misunderstood. As for what the MOI says, I'm out of the copy and paste business. All npc members can get a copy thru their web site or NPC delegate.

With all due respect to the interesting information shared here regarding NPC rules and procedures, I think that in RL the vast majority of Greeks -- including loyal, involved alums and current actives -- are not experts on RFM, QA, and the MOI.

And yet they are still Greek.

[irishpipes]

Originally Posted by kaeb

I thought that's what quota additions were? To get houses who weren't at total to quota? My apologies.

I think a lot of people get confused with the lingo. You may be confusing QAs with snap bids and/or COB.

QAs are in place to assist PNMs, not really chapters (not that the chapter doesn't benefit). To oversimplify, if a PNM is unmatched after quota has been filled (and the PNM maximized her options), the RFM specialist will place the unmatched PNM on a bid list for one of her preferenced chapters. Some RFM specialists will place the PNM in the smallest preferenced chapter, others will place the PNM on her highest ranked chapter, others may use other criteria completely. In the past, quota additions were capped at 5% of quota, but since PNMs were going unmatched, that restriction has been eliminated. Typically, the chapter will not know which new members are QAs and which were on the original matched list.

Snap bids are utilized by the chapter immediately after bid matching but before bid distribution, in order to assist the chapter in reaching quota. Regular chapter members are usually unaware that a new member has been snapped rather than matched. The new member will know, and maybe the recruitment chair and a few other officers of the chapter.

COB bids are used to assist the chapter in achieving chapter total and are extended after formal recruitment has concluded.

Both snaps and COB bids are executed by the chapter, not the RFM specialist.

[ellebud]

Originally Posted by APhi4Ever

This just makes me laugh, can I use it as a quote?

Absolutely.

[mamagreek]

Does anyone know the QUOTA NUMBER for 2012 formal recruitment at USC?

Feel free to fill in the number of new members for the following chapters:

Alpha Chi Omega:
Alpha Delta Pi:
Kappa Kappa Gamma:

Alpha Phi: 86
Delta Delta Delta: 90
Delta Gamma: 78
Gamma Phi Beta: 88
Kappa Alpha Theta: 82
Pi Beta Phi: 87
(these numbers were all taken from prior posts -- they are not official). Thank you!

[gatordeltapgh]

Originally Posted by mamagreek

Does anyone know the QUOTA NUMBER for 2012 formal recruitment at USC?

Quota was 78

[irishpipes]

ADPi 83