Cut from all Chapters at UGA

[AOII Angel]

Originally Posted by Hartofsec

Of course not. Fewer sophmores than freshmen participate in formal recruitment, and far fewer junior and seniors participate. What percent of freshmen in your colonizing class participated in formal recruitment? It is also possible that some percentage of the upperclassmen participated in formal recruitment years prior. Did you?

Nonetheless, PNMs like SECglitter, who want an opportunity to join the Greek system, can benefit a chapter new to campus. A win-win.



Because while Titchou was telling SECglitter why she was released, I couldn't ignore the irony that Titchou's own chapter benefited from released PNMs, like SECglitter, when recolonizing at Alabama.

Hopefully they were not similarly interrogated regarding their release, however.

Originally Posted by Hartofsec

Something else to consider -- not every person is chatty and super outgoing in new situations -- and there are few situations more chaotic and small-talk-dependent than recruitment. The whirlwind of recruitment may not favor the quiet personality. Even among actives one could sort personalities along the lines of super rushers and those who are more comfortable in the background. Most of us have close friends of both leanings, I'm sure, in real life (recruitment certainly is not real life, so to speak).

A PNM can also be unlucky in regard to the actives they chat with -- an apathetic active snoozing in the chapter room may not be speaking up as someone who met the PNM.

Um...there was absolutely NO REASON to bring DG at ALABAMA into a thread about UGA to try and indict a 60-something alumna! What is wrong with your reasoning? Do you have a personal beef with DG? Just back off, okay.

Titchou frequently comes off abrasively, but what she was telling the OP was actually quite useful. She probably didn't stand out in recruitment (giving her the benefit of the doubt that she didn't have some horrible strike against her) and learning to sell herself would be helpful in the future. Reading more into her posts that she was telling the girl that she was unimpressive or not worth a spot in a sorority is way off base. Hell, there are plenty of times I completely disagree with what titchou says, but you have an obsession with her and her chapter that is ridiculous.

[Hartofsec]

Originally Posted by AOII Angel

Um...there was absolutely NO REASON to bring DG at ALABAMA into a thread about UGA to try and indict a 60-something alumna! What is wrong with your reasoning? Do you have a personal beef with DG? Just back off, okay.

Titchou frequently comes off abrasively, but what she was telling the OP was actually quite useful. She probably didn't stand out in recruitment (giving her the benefit of the doubt that she didn't have some horrible strike against her) and learning to sell herself would be helpful in the future. Reading more into her posts that she was telling the girl that she was unimpressive or not worth a spot in a sorority is way off base. Hell, there are plenty of times I completely disagree with what titchou says, but you have an obsession with her and her chapter that is ridiculous.

I think my post and additional explanation was self-explanatory.

I didn't enter Alabama as a benchmark of recruitment in this thread. But since it has been, I contributed because I went there, am an alum of a chapter there, write lots of recs there, and know the outcome of girls in my area who participate in recruitment there.

I'm really not interested in finding some drama here that doesn't exist. Sorry.


ETA: I'm not really sure -- exactly -- what "selling yourself" really looks like during rush. Appearing to be someone who is "trying too hard" may not play as sincere.

[AOII Angel]

Originally Posted by Hartofsec

I think my post and additional explanation was self-explanatory.

I didn't enter Alabama as a benchmark of recruitment in this thread. But since it has been, I contributed because I went there, am an alum of a chapter there, write lots of recs there, and know the outcome of girls in my area who participate in recruitment there.

I'm really not interested in finding some drama here that doesn't exist. Sorry.


ETA: I'm not really sure -- exactly -- what "selling yourself" really looks like during rush. Appearing to be someone who is "trying too hard" may not play as sincere.

No it really isn't self explanatory. An alumna of any sorority giving advice in a thread has NOTHING to do with whether or not her collegiate chapter gives women bids when they re-rush. She may not even be in the position to make those decisions. You making those catty comments about her chapter to "shame" her are really hurtful as PNMs can google her chapter name and find your comments. It is completely unnecessary, and it doesn't matter if you are an alumna of Alabama or Timbuktu. Quit being a haughty brat and leave DG alone. They just got back to campus and don't need you slamming them every few weeks on GC.

BTW, normal people when they disagree with advice given by others on a thread just state their own differing advice without dragging the other poster's sorority into the situation. I get that you don't know how you'd "sell yourself" in recruitment. Fine. Just leave it at that.

[Hartofsec]

Originally Posted by AOII Angel

No it really isn't self explanatory. An alumna of any sorority giving advice in a thread has NOTHING to do with whether or not her collegiate chapter gives women bids when they re-rush. She may not even be in the position to make those decisions. You making those catty comments about her chapter to "shame" her are really hurtful as PNMs can google her chapter name and find your comments. It is completely unnecessary, and it doesn't matter if you are an alumna of Alabama or Timbuktu. Quit being a haughty brat and leave DG alone. They just got back to campus and don't need you slamming them every few weeks on GC.

There isn't any shame in pledging PNMs who were released from recruitment.

The fact that they were released does not necessarily mean that they did something wrong or didn't do something right. That's the point.

Those girls can benefit a new sorority -- a chapter recolonizing needs members who are enthusiastic about joining a sorority. And PNMs who were released represent a pool of girls who are!

[WhiteDaisy128]

Originally Posted by Hartofsec

There isn't any shame in pledging PNMs who were released from recruitment.

No one said there was. You are the only one who brought this up.

Originally Posted by Hartofsec

The fact that they were released does not necessarily mean that they did something wrong or didn't do something right. That's the point.

Then say that and do not bring up other universities and chapters. And CERTAINLY don't bring personal jabs into it.

Originally Posted by Hartofsec

Those girls can benefit a new sorority -- a chapter recolonizing needs members who are enthusiastic about joining a sorority. And PNMs who were released represent a pool of girls who are!

UGA isn't colonizing a new sorority this year. This is not relevant in this thread.

SECglitter, just so you know a MCGLO is Multicultural Greek Letter Organization. They offer similar fellowship and philanthropic opportunities as NPC, but operate under a different umbrella organization.

[AOII Angel]

Originally Posted by WhiteDaisy128

No one said there was. You are the only one who brought this up.



Then say that and do not bring up other universities and chapters. And CERTAINLY don't bring personal jabs into it.



UGA isn't colonizing a new sorority this year. This is not relevant in this thread.

SECglitter, just so you know a MCGLO is Multicultural Greek Letter Organization. They offer similar fellowship and philanthropic opportunities as NPC, but operate under a different umbrella organization.

Amen.

[Hartofsec]

Originally Posted by WhiteDaisy128

No one said there was. You are the only one who brought this up.

Actually, AOII Angel brought it up:

Originally Posted by AOII Angel

You making those catty comments about her chapter to "shame" her are really hurtful as PNMs can google her chapter name and find your comments. It is completely unnecessary, and it doesn't matter if you are an alumna of Alabama or Timbuktu. Quit being a haughty brat and leave DG alone. They just got back to campus and don't need you slamming them every few weeks on GC.

I just responded to her insinuation:

There isn't any shame in pledging PNMs who were released from recruitment.

The fact that they were released does not necessarily mean that they did something wrong or didn't do something right. That's the point.

What might be questionable (or at least amazingly clairvoyant ), IMO, is an alum claiming to know why a PNM was released from recruitment, based on her own experience, 50 years ago, on a different campus.

Originally Posted by amIblue?

Just. Shut. Up.

Originally Posted by amIblue?

We get it. You don't like Titchou, and apparently, you don't like Delta Gamma at Alabama, either. Way to show the panhellenic love for your own school. None of these things have to do with what SECglitter wants to know.

I’m actually delighted that Delta Gamma recolonized at Bama – a much needed addition to the Greek system, and done very well.

The fact that girls who were released from recruitment were pledged as part of the new membership is not a negative, but rather a win/win. We shouldn’t make an assumption that something is inherently “wrong” with a girl who has been released from recruitment.

That’s the point (that I have made repeatedly).

[amIblue?]

Originally Posted by Hartofsec

The fact that girls who were released from recruitment were pledged as part of the new membership is not a negative, but rather a win/win. We shouldn’t make an assumption that something is inherently “wrong” with a girl who has been released from recruitment.

That’s the point (that I have made repeatedly).

And you could have made this point without naming a specific chapter.

[AOII Angel]

Originally Posted by Hartofsec

Actually, AOII Angel brought it up:



I just responded to her insinuation:




What might be questionable (or at least amazingly clairvoyant ), IMO, is an alum claiming to know why a PNM was released from recruitment, based on her own experience, 50 years ago, on a different campus.


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I’m actually delighted that Delta Gamma recolonized at Bama – a much needed addition to the Greek system, and done very well.

The fact that girls who were released from recruitment were pledged as part of the new membership is not a negative, but rather a win/win. We shouldn’t make an assumption that something is inherently “wrong” with a girl who has been released from recruitment.

That’s the point (that I have made repeatedly).

This is rich. I didn't bring up Alabama; you did. No one has tried to say there is anything wrong with SECglitter, including Titchou. There was no reason to bring a colonizing chapter from another university into the discussion EXCEPT to through it in Titchou's face. There are no colonizing chapters at UGA so it is completely irrelevant otherwise. Don't blame me for your classless lack of judgement. When I disagree with Titchou, I just say so, I don't attack her organization. Leave her sorority out of it.