Cut from all Chapters at UGA

[Hartofsec]

Originally Posted by WhiteDaisy128

Seriously? Are you still stalking Titchou from that other thread?

Nothing to do with SECglitter here, but just for the record, I was part of a colonizing chapter (of DG ironically enough) and over 90% of our pledge class did NOT go through formal recruitment. Of the 10% or so that did, it was pretty split between the girls being released and the girls removing themselves from the process.

Colonies are not just the "left overs" from recruitment -- though, for PNMs that slip through the cracks during formal recruitment, they can be a great way to step into the Greek system.

I assume you were not at Alabama -- and I also assume that when your colony formed it was represented by members of all classes (not just freshmen or sophmores who went through formal recruitment that year).

Please note that I had something positive to say about girls released from recruitment -- I was not passing judgement regarding why they were released.

And yes, at Alabama, girls who are released from recruitment can be very important to the launch of a chapter new to campus (especially freshmen). They are interested in joining a sorority, obviously, as otherwise they would not have participated in recruitment.

[pbear19]

Funny. Most threads like this are filled with women explaining to the OP that we can't tell her why she was released. In this thread, the OP specifically said that she knows we can't tell her that, and she's not asking. Yet the thread is filled with women explaining to the OP why she might have been released.

[Hartofsec]

Originally Posted by pbear19

Funny. Most threads like this are filled with women explaining to the OP that we can't tell her why she was released. In this thread, the OP specifically said that she knows we can't tell her that, and she's not asking. Yet the thread is filled with women explaining to the OP why she might have been released.

lol -- great observation.

[gee_ess]

Originally Posted by pbear19

Funny. Most threads like this are filled with women explaining to the OP that we can't tell her why she was released. In this thread, the OP specifically said that she knows we can't tell her that, and she's not asking. Yet the thread is filled with women explaining to the OP why she might have been released.

I was thinking this exact thing!

And, I know nothing of the tiff mentioned above, but I thought HartofSEC made a good point that we mustn't write off the OP as an unimpressive pnm simply because she was released. And on campuses with new colonies, released pnms make up a part of their new member pool and those new members might have been pnms who were overlooked.

[SECglitter]

Hmm...I wish a new chapter were colonizing here at UGA. I know Ole Miss Panhellenic is thinking about expanding, and an AGD chapter is coming to South Carolina but because I am on the HOPE and Zel Miller scholarship, my parents won't let me transfer out of state. I almost wish I had kept my high school GPA under 3.7 just so parents would let me transfer! LOL

[Hartofsec]

Originally Posted by SECglitter

Hmm...I wish a new chapter were colonizing here at UGA. I know Ole Miss Panhellenic is thinking about expanding, and an AGD chapter is coming to South Carolina but because I am on the HOPE and Zel Miller scholarship, my parents won't let me transfer out of state. I almost wish I had kept my high school GPA under 3.7 just so parents would let me transfer! LOL

(hugs) You can make your mark on campus -- GeorgiaGreek really had some specific suggestions to help you get started. Sometimes when a disappointment presents as an obstacle, a new path opens that you will (eventually) be thankful you traveled.

You have good grades -- keep it up -- interview for honor societies, and even campus positions/organizations that seem a reach. You will not make everything, but every time you interview you will have more experience to draw upon (and you can try again). Involvement begets involvement. And one day when you are interviewing for a competitive graduate admission or a job (high-stakes situations where the rubber really meets the road), you will have a great story of disappointment and resilience to tell and write about. Your disappointment now -- and how you find your campus land legs moving forward -- may be what sets you apart in the future.

There are so many adventures and people to meet ahead -- remember that most people on campus are not Greek. Pour yourself into campus involvement, and decide later if you want to try again.

Go get 'em!

[Hartofsec]

Originally Posted by gee_ess

I was thinking this exact thing!

And, I know nothing of the tiff mentioned above, but I thought HartofSEC made a good point that we mustn't write off the OP as an unimpressive pnm simply because she was released. And on campuses with new colonies, released pnms make up a part of their new member pool and those new members might have been pnms who were overlooked.

Something else to consider -- not every person is chatty and super outgoing in new situations -- and there are few situations more chaotic and small-talk-dependent than recruitment. The whirlwind of recruitment may not favor the quiet personality. Even among actives one could sort personalities along the lines of super rushers and those who are more comfortable in the background. Most of us have close friends of both leanings, I'm sure, in real life (recruitment certainly is not real life, so to speak).

A PNM can also be unlucky in regard to the actives they chat with -- an apathetic active snoozing in the chapter room may not be speaking up as someone who met the PNM.

[AOII Angel]

Originally Posted by Hartofsec

Of course not. Fewer sophmores than freshmen participate in formal recruitment, and far fewer junior and seniors participate. What percent of freshmen in your colonizing class participated in formal recruitment? It is also possible that some percentage of the upperclassmen participated in formal recruitment years prior. Did you?

Nonetheless, PNMs like SECglitter, who want an opportunity to join the Greek system, can benefit a chapter new to campus. A win-win.



Because while Titchou was telling SECglitter why she was released, I couldn't ignore the irony that Titchou's own chapter benefited from released PNMs, like SECglitter, when recolonizing at Alabama.

Hopefully they were not similarly interrogated regarding their release, however.

Originally Posted by Hartofsec

Something else to consider -- not every person is chatty and super outgoing in new situations -- and there are few situations more chaotic and small-talk-dependent than recruitment. The whirlwind of recruitment may not favor the quiet personality. Even among actives one could sort personalities along the lines of super rushers and those who are more comfortable in the background. Most of us have close friends of both leanings, I'm sure, in real life (recruitment certainly is not real life, so to speak).

A PNM can also be unlucky in regard to the actives they chat with -- an apathetic active snoozing in the chapter room may not be speaking up as someone who met the PNM.

Um...there was absolutely NO REASON to bring DG at ALABAMA into a thread about UGA to try and indict a 60-something alumna! What is wrong with your reasoning? Do you have a personal beef with DG? Just back off, okay.

Titchou frequently comes off abrasively, but what she was telling the OP was actually quite useful. She probably didn't stand out in recruitment (giving her the benefit of the doubt that she didn't have some horrible strike against her) and learning to sell herself would be helpful in the future. Reading more into her posts that she was telling the girl that she was unimpressive or not worth a spot in a sorority is way off base. Hell, there are plenty of times I completely disagree with what titchou says, but you have an obsession with her and her chapter that is ridiculous.

[Hartofsec]

Originally Posted by AOII Angel

Um...there was absolutely NO REASON to bring DG at ALABAMA into a thread about UGA to try and indict a 60-something alumna! What is wrong with your reasoning? Do you have a personal beef with DG? Just back off, okay.

Titchou frequently comes off abrasively, but what she was telling the OP was actually quite useful. She probably didn't stand out in recruitment (giving her the benefit of the doubt that she didn't have some horrible strike against her) and learning to sell herself would be helpful in the future. Reading more into her posts that she was telling the girl that she was unimpressive or not worth a spot in a sorority is way off base. Hell, there are plenty of times I completely disagree with what titchou says, but you have an obsession with her and her chapter that is ridiculous.

I think my post and additional explanation was self-explanatory.

I didn't enter Alabama as a benchmark of recruitment in this thread. But since it has been, I contributed because I went there, am an alum of a chapter there, write lots of recs there, and know the outcome of girls in my area who participate in recruitment there.

I'm really not interested in finding some drama here that doesn't exist. Sorry.


ETA: I'm not really sure -- exactly -- what "selling yourself" really looks like during rush. Appearing to be someone who is "trying too hard" may not play as sincere.

[AOII Angel]

Originally Posted by Hartofsec

I think my post and additional explanation was self-explanatory.

I didn't enter Alabama as a benchmark of recruitment in this thread. But since it has been, I contributed because I went there, am an alum of a chapter there, write lots of recs there, and know the outcome of girls in my area who participate in recruitment there.

I'm really not interested in finding some drama here that doesn't exist. Sorry.


ETA: I'm not really sure -- exactly -- what "selling yourself" really looks like during rush. Appearing to be someone who is "trying too hard" may not play as sincere.

No it really isn't self explanatory. An alumna of any sorority giving advice in a thread has NOTHING to do with whether or not her collegiate chapter gives women bids when they re-rush. She may not even be in the position to make those decisions. You making those catty comments about her chapter to "shame" her are really hurtful as PNMs can google her chapter name and find your comments. It is completely unnecessary, and it doesn't matter if you are an alumna of Alabama or Timbuktu. Quit being a haughty brat and leave DG alone. They just got back to campus and don't need you slamming them every few weeks on GC.

BTW, normal people when they disagree with advice given by others on a thread just state their own differing advice without dragging the other poster's sorority into the situation. I get that you don't know how you'd "sell yourself" in recruitment. Fine. Just leave it at that.

[thetalady]

Originally Posted by pbear19

Funny. Most threads like this are filled with women explaining to the OP that we can't tell her why she was released. In this thread, the OP specifically said that she knows we can't tell her that, and she's not asking. Yet the thread is filled with women explaining to the OP why she might have been released.

The OP asked what she should do when she rushes again as a sophomore. I think it is important for her to try to understand why she might have been released. If you do not learn from your mistakes, you are doomed to repeat them.

IF you choose to rush again, you must make sure that whatever caused you to be dropped from recruitment this time is not a problem again next year.

[WhiteDaisy128]

Originally Posted by Hartofsec

I assume you were not at Alabama -- and I also assume that when your colony formed it was represented by members of all classes (not just freshmen or sophmores who went through formal recruitment that year).

Please note that I had something positive to say about girls released from recruitment -- I was not passing judgement regarding why they were released.

And yes, at Alabama, girls who are released from recruitment can be very important to the launch of a chapter new to campus (especially freshmen). They are interested in joining a sorority, obviously, as otherwise they would not have participated in recruitment.

Yes, I was not at Alabama. Yes, my colonizing class was made up of women from all classes. Was the Alabama chapter that just colonized just made up of freshmen?

I know you had positive things to say about the women being released. My beef was that you swoop in this thread and immediately start taking jabs at Titchou as if to continue the tiff in a thread that has been closed. Why in the world was the DG colonization at Alabama brought up in this thread?

[Hartofsec]

Originally Posted by WhiteDaisy128

Yes, I was not at Alabama. Yes, my colonizing class was made up of women from all classes. Was the Alabama chapter that just colonized just made up of freshmen?

Of course not. Fewer sophmores than freshmen participate in formal recruitment, and far fewer junior and seniors participate. What percent of freshmen in your colonizing class participated in formal recruitment? It is also possible that some percentage of the upperclassmen participated in formal recruitment years prior. Did you?

Nonetheless, PNMs like SECglitter, who want an opportunity to join the Greek system, can benefit a chapter new to campus. A win-win.

Originally Posted by WhiteDaisy128

I know you had positive things to say about the women being released. My beef was that you swoop in this thread and immediately start taking jabs at Titchou as if to continue the tiff in a thread that has been closed. Why in the world was the DG colonization at Alabama brought up in this thread?

Because while Titchou was telling SECglitter why she was released, I couldn't ignore the irony that Titchou's own chapter benefited from released PNMs, like SECglitter, when recolonizing at Alabama.

Hopefully they were not similarly interrogated regarding their release, however.