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08-23-2012, 04:16 PM
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So, curious: what happens if I use the term "pledge"? Seriously.
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I've made an assumption. When NPC adopts its unanimous agreements, each member organization pledges that each member will "abide by and honor the UAs."
Since that's one I'm not willing to honor, I'm presuming I would not be welcome as an advisor or officer at anything above the chapter level. I seriously doubt DG would revoke my membership because of it, but I respect that DG has signed up to something I cannot support.
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08-23-2012, 05:58 PM
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I've made an assumption. When NPC adopts its unanimous agreements, each member organization pledges that each member will "abide by and honor the UAs."
Since that's one I'm not willing to honor, I'm presuming I would not be welcome as an advisor or officer at anything above the chapter level. I seriously doubt DG would revoke my membership because of it, but I respect that DG has signed up to something I cannot support.
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Well, the terminology change is not a UA so don't worry about that! I slip up all the time too - and on DG terms- I lapse into ABC instead of ATC, Finance Adviser instead of COA, etc. Everyone does at some time.
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08-23-2012, 06:39 PM
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I've made an assumption. When NPC adopts its unanimous agreements, each member organization pledges that each member will "abide by and honor the UAs."
Since that's one I'm not willing to honor, I'm presuming I would not be welcome as an advisor or officer at anything above the chapter level. I seriously doubt DG would revoke my membership because of it, but I respect that DG has signed up to something I cannot support.
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I'm sorry, this is the most dramatic wailing over a terminology change I've ever seen in my entire life.
You "cannot support" it? Really? You "cannot support" referring to new members as... new members? Like, this is the most offensive thing ever to you? Because you're certainly posting like it is.
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08-23-2012, 08:32 PM
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I'm sorry, this is the most dramatic wailing over a terminology change I've ever seen in my entire life.
You "cannot support" it? Really? You "cannot support" referring to new members as... new members? Like, this is the most offensive thing ever to you? Because you're certainly posting like it is.
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Please take a chill pill. Part of this discussion broke off into the "new member" and "baby" and "pledge" and "rushee" discussion.
I do not and will not support the change to "recruitment" and "new member" -- I won't use the terms in place of those I believe to be more accurate. Someone asked what would happen if one used the old terminology, and I stated that I was surmising, and implied I could be wrong. If you disagree with me, that's one thing, but it is your opinion, and opinion only, and it differs from mine. No need to get nasty.
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08-23-2012, 08:58 PM
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Please take a chill pill. Part of this discussion broke off into the "new member" and "baby" and "pledge" and "rushee" discussion.
I do not and will not support the change to "recruitment" and "new member" -- I won't use the terms in place of those I believe to be more accurate. Someone asked what would happen if one used the old terminology, and I stated that I was surmising, and implied I could be wrong. If you disagree with me, that's one thing, but it is your opinion, and opinion only, and it differs from mine. No need to get nasty.
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Oh yes, please, take a stand over something as innocuous as a terminology change from rush to recruitment and pledge to new member. You're so brave to stand against it in the face of something that threatens everything you hold dear!
I tell you what, those jerks who wanted to make this change are nothing but commies! Socialism! Obamacare!
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08-23-2012, 10:39 PM
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But because I've only been in a sorority for a year and a half, I can't help but be curious - why was rush changed to recruitment and pledge to new member? Why were those words decided to be inappropriate? It just seems silly to me how much trouble people get in these days for accidentally uttering rush.
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08-24-2012, 05:17 AM
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I love the therm "aspirant" (most used by NHPC if I'm correctly informed).
My group uses this term as well but in a different way.
Candidates for those signing up for "recruitment", aspirants for those going though their "new member/pledging period" and members for those who initiate.
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09-06-2012, 03:04 PM
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"Baby Violet": A Plant, not a Person.
http://trisigmablog.org/?p=709
What excites me most about this is that AST's national president just posted this on Facebook
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09-06-2012, 03:14 PM
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"Baby Violet": A Plant, not a Person.
http://trisigmablog.org/?p=709
What excites me most about this is that AST's national president just posted this on Facebook 
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Do you call your NMs "violets"? I think that it is a nice term; no reason to add "baby".
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09-06-2012, 04:44 PM
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"Baby Violet": A Plant, not a Person
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Interesting...
I remember when I pledged KD (and we were still called pledges), Tri Sigma *(on my campus) had just started using the term 'New Member,' saying, "A pledge is a promise, not a person." How fitting that, *mumble, cough, mumble* years later, they've revamped the phrase.
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Reason: added *on my campus*
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09-06-2012, 07:04 PM
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Interesting...
I remember when I pledged KD (and we were still called pledges), Tri Sigma *(on my campus) had just started using the term 'New Member,' saying, "A pledge is a promise, not a person." How fitting that, *mumble, cough, mumble* years later, they've revamped the phrase.
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Hey folks, you may want to get out your blood pressure meds. Apparently “recruitment” isn't a prefect term. Lafayette has a new vocabulary word:
What was once called rush has become Membership Exploration Week (MEW)
http://www.thelaf.com/news/sorority-...9#.UEkn7MjNnpM
The article ^^ has these tidbits, too:
“. . . This fall, 158 prospective sorority women showed up for MEW’s first day. About 138 women were matched with specific sororities on the final day of MEW. Only three could not be matched. The rest withdrew over the course of the week. . . “
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09-06-2012, 07:16 PM
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What was once called rush has become Membership Exploration Week (MEW)
“. . . This fall, 158 prospective sorority women showed up for MEW’s first day. About 138 women were matched with specific sororities on the final day of MEW. Only three could not be matched. The rest withdrew over the course of the week. . . “
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Nah, won't work. They'll start calling the actives 'cats' and the PNMs/NMs 'kittens', and it'll be the whole baby animal debate all over again. There would be some comedic value in the chapters being referred to as 'cathouses', though.
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09-07-2012, 12:11 AM
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Originally Posted by exlurker
Hey folks, you may want to get out your blood pressure meds. Apparently “recruitment” isn't a prefect term. Lafayette has a new vocabulary word:
What was once called rush has become Membership Exploration Week (MEW)
http://www.thelaf.com/news/sorority-...9#.UEkn7MjNnpM
The article ^^ has these tidbits, too:
“. . . This fall, 158 prospective sorority women showed up for MEW’s first day. About 138 women were matched with specific sororities on the final day of MEW. Only three could not be matched. The rest withdrew over the course of the week. . . “
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Membership Exploration Week? It sounds like an event held at a children's museum.
No thanks.
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09-13-2012, 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by ASTalumna06
"Baby Violet": A Plant, not a Person.
http://trisigmablog.org/?p=709
What excites me most about this is that AST's national president just posted this on Facebook 
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I'm so happy AST is taking a stance against this "baby" thing. This was just posted on the national Facebook page/group, along with a link to the article above:
Our Panhellenic sisters at Sigma Sigma Sigma National Sorority recently posted a wonderful blog entry about the current trend of referring to new members as “babies.” Just a reminder that our new members are also not babies, baby Taus or baby anchors. They are active, self-reliant and trustworthy women who joined our sisterhood; you have the privilege of empowering them to be such!
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09-07-2012, 12:01 AM
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So nice of President Umberger to reinvent recruitment and fraternity nomenclature for us. Maybe he'll rewrite our rituals for us next.
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