Cardinal Rule Broken by Our Greek Advisor ;-(

[Greek_or_Geek?]

So here's a theoretical. What if she actually didn't tell the truth in the interview and she was never a member of an NPC organization? What if she came up with that answer on the fly to make her look like she could relate to two different sides of Greek life and didn't realize it wasn't something that should be done until the OP brought it up? Now her tale of getting the NPHC organization to approve her membership is covering her tracks that she lied during the interview?

I would be very tempted to find a trusted member of each sorority that was at her undergrad campus to confirm that she was or wasn't listed in their member database before approaching any organization anonymously.

[KSig RC]

Originally Posted by Greek_or_Geek?

So here's a theoretical. What if she actually didn't tell the truth in the interview and she was never a member of an NPC organization? What if she came up with that answer on the fly to make her look like she could relate to two different sides of Greek life and didn't realize it wasn't something that should be done until the OP brought it up? Now her tale of getting the NPHC organization to approve her membership is covering her tracks that she lied during the interview?

Would this be better, or worse?

[Greek_or_Geek?]

Originally Posted by KSig RC

Would this be better, or worse?

I'm not sure. It's an entirely different problem.

[Kevin]

Originally Posted by Greek_or_Geek?

SI would be very tempted to find a trusted member of each sorority that was at her undergrad campus to confirm that she was or wasn't listed in their member database before approaching any organization anonymously.

There is absolutely no way this could backfire.

--for the sarcasm-challenged, I mean this plan would almost definitely backfire.

[Greek_or_Geek?]

Originally Posted by Kevin

There is absolutely no way this could backfire.

--for the sarcasm-challenged, I mean this plan would almost definitely backfire.

Not if it's someone who's completely uninvolved with the campus, situation etc. I'm not talking about someone who would recognize the woman's name or people from Greekchat.

[Kevin]

Originally Posted by Greek_or_Geek?

Not if it's someone who's completely uninvolved with the campus, situation etc. I'm not talking about someone who would recognize the woman's name or people from Greekchat.

So you think it's a good idea to advise this woman who is the president of her student body to conduct her own investigation by contacting alumnae at both her old undergrad NPC group and with her NPHC group to verify her story and that in doing so, she could safely protect her own identity and not appear to be some sort of stalker and also not have the fact that she is making inquiries leaked back to the Greek Life Adviser?

Someone who is "completely uninvolved" won't know what is going on and won't have any reason to make inquiries on the behalf of a stranger. This is not a good idea.

[Greek_or_Geek?]

Originally Posted by Kevin

So you think it's a good idea to advise this woman who is the president of her student body to conduct her own investigation by contacting alumnae at both her old undergrad NPC group and with her NPHC group to verify her story and that in doing so, she could safely protect her own identity and not appear to be some sort of stalker and also not have the fact that she is making inquiries leaked back to the Greek Life Adviser?

Someone who is "completely uninvolved" won't know what is going on and won't have any reason to make inquiries on the behalf of a stranger. This is not a good idea.

No. I'm not saying that at all. I'm saying that she needs to make sure the story is actually correct before reporting it anonymously to the NPHC organization if that's what she ultimately decides to do.

As an NPC member, I have been asked on multiple occasions to check and see if someone is a member. It takes about three seconds online and it isn't a strange request, particularly at this time of year. Or like others in this thread mentioned, college yearbooks are online. A look through a few of those may also easily answer this question.

[Kevin]

Originally Posted by Greek_or_Geek?

No. I'm not saying that at all. I'm saying that she needs to make sure the story is actually correct before reporting it anonymously to the NPHC organization if that's what she ultimately decides to do.

I may overplay my hand with this lane swerve, but it'd seem a lot more appropriate for the OP to make her report to the NPHC organization allow them to conduct their own internal investigation. Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I really doubt they'd want some non-member poking around in their affairs.

I can tell you that if someone asked me whether someone was a member in good standing, I'd be happy to share that information. If, however, they wanted to know the circumstances of a member's joining and what, if any inquiries were made to HQ re dual membership, I'd tell them to tell me what they know and not expect to get any information or even a call back from me unless I needed more information, but that I would be handling things from there. I doubt that OP would fare any differently by making direct inquiries. Now, I can say that I would definitely not contact this person nor would I reveal any information given to me in confidence, but not everyone can be trusted to do that and there's a chance things will get out of hand and there's a chance of retaliation.

As an NPC member, I have been asked on multiple occasions to check and see if someone is a member. It takes about three seconds online and it isn't a strange request, particularly at this time of year. Or like others in this thread mentioned, college yearbooks are online. A look through a few of those may also easily answer this question.

That's fine and I'm sure those requests are above-board if you're checking recs and such. This case is asking for quite a bit more information than whether this person is a member in good standing.

[AOII Angel]

Originally Posted by Kevin

I may overplay my hand with this lane swerve, but it'd seem a lot more appropriate for the OP to make her report to the NPHC organization allow them to conduct their own internal investigation. Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I really doubt they'd want some non-member poking around in their affairs.

I can tell you that if someone asked me whether someone was a member in good standing, I'd be happy to share that information. If, however, they wanted to know the circumstances of my joining and what, if any inquiries were made to HQ re dual membership, I'd tell them to tell me what they know and not expect to get any information or even a call back from me unless I needed more information, but that I would be handling things from there. I doubt that OP would fare any differently by making direct inquiries. Now, I can say that I would definitely not contact this person nor would I reveal any information given to me in confidence, but not everyone can be trusted to do that and there's a chance things will get out of hand and there's a chance of retaliation.




That's fine and I'm sure those requests are above-board if you're checking recs and such. This case is asking for quite a bit more information than whether this person is a member in good standing.

This. If someone called me asking pointed questions about a sister and our rules, I'd ask, "And who are you? And how is this your business?"

[amanda6035]

Originally Posted by Greek_or_Geek?

So here's a theoretical. What if she actually didn't tell the truth in the interview and she was never a member of an NPC organization? What if she came up with that answer on the fly to make her look like she could relate to two different sides of Greek life and didn't realize it wasn't something that should be done until the OP brought it up? Now her tale of getting the NPHC organization to approve her membership is covering her tracks that she lied during the interview?

Exactly what I was thinking... you beat me to it!