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08-01-2012, 11:55 PM
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Originally Posted by agzg
What.
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Yup.
I assume you are a White female. Being White and female in this country affords you a certain 'carte blanc' that I don't have, and will never have since I am a Black female. The strong and deeply rooted divisions in this country are divided along color lines, and a close second gender lines, not sexual orientation.
Just from a daily experience, if I go into a store, any store, I am watched and followed, and at the same time ignored when I do ask for assistance.
Dollar for dollar, Black females are almost the lowest paid on the job, and the most often passed over for promotions.
We tend to be the least respected too. For example, if a White girl is known to have many sexual partners, then she is seen as a 'free-spirit', open and caring. If a Black girl has the same lifestyle, then she is seen as a 'hoochie-mama', just out to have babies so she can get on Welfare.
So, for me, when it comes to being a minority, I see it along color lines, and not sexual orientation. Because, even if you are White and gay in this country, there are avenues and opportunities open to you just for being White that I don't have because I'm Black. Or, what Andre Turner said in that other thread.
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08-01-2012, 11:56 PM
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Originally Posted by sigmadiva
Yup.
I assume you are a White female. Being White and female in this country affords you a certain 'carte blanc' that I don't have, and will never have since I am a Black female. The strong and deeply rooted divisions in this country are divided along color lines, and a close second gender lines, not sexual orientation.
Just from a daily experience, if I go into a store, any store, I am watched and followed, and at the same time ignored when I do ask for assistance.
Dollar for dollar, Black females are almost the lowest paid on the job, and the most often passed over for promotions.
We tend to be the least respected too. For example, if a White girl is known to have many sexual partners, then she is seen as a 'free-spirit', open and caring. If a Black girl has the same lifestyle, then she is seen as a 'hoochie-mama', just out to have babies so she can get on Welfare.
So, for me, when it comes to being a minority, I see it along color lines, and not sexual orientation. Because, even if you are White and gay in this country, there are avenues and opportunities open to you just for being White that I don't have because I'm Black. Or, what Andre Turner said in that other thread.
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This is lunacy and Oppression Olympics. Sorry friend, only one set of Olympics I'm interested in being party to.
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08-01-2012, 11:58 PM
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This is lunacy and Oppression Olympics. Sorry friend, only one set of Olympics I'm interested in being party to.
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Sure, but it still does not change the dynamics I mentioned.
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08-01-2012, 11:59 PM
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Sure, but it still does not change the dynamics I mentioned. 
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But see, the dynamics you mentioned are also irrelevant to the conversation. Unless the COO of Chick-fil-A is also against Black and Hispanic marriage.
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08-02-2012, 12:01 AM
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But see, the dynamics you mentioned are also irrelevant to the conversation. Unless the COO of Chick-fil-A is also against Black and Hispanic marriage.
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Maybe for the thread, but not for you since you questioned it. I was responding to your 'What' that you directed at what I said.
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08-02-2012, 12:10 AM
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Maybe for the thread, but not for you since you questioned it. I was responding to your 'What' that you directed at what I said.
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It's fairly clear you're going for the gold in mental gymnastics. But please, tell me more about me. Because this Chick-fil-A issue is clearly about you, and me, and my privilege versus your privilege. In fact, I believe the COO actually said that "agzg rules because WHITE LADY! sigmadiva drools because BLACK LADY!"
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08-02-2012, 12:12 AM
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It's fairly clear you're going for the gold in mental gymnastics. But please, tell me more about me. Because this Chick-fil-A issue is clearly about you, and me, and my privilege versus your privilege. In fact, I believe the COO actually said that "agzg rules because WHITE LADY! sigmadiva drools because BLACK LADY!"
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Ummm, yeah......
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08-01-2012, 11:57 PM
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Originally Posted by sigmadiva
We tend to be the least respected too. For example, if a White girl is known to have many sexual partners, then she is seen as a 'free-spirit', open and caring. If a Black girl has the same lifestyle, then she is seen as a 'hoochie-mama', just out to have babies so she can get on Welfare.
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No, a white girl who sleeps around is called a slut.. She's just out to have babies to get on 'Teen Mom.'
On the other hand, ANY guy that sleeps around is called a hero.
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08-01-2012, 11:58 PM
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Yup.
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Look at you again.
What you typed does not matter for the current discussion.
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08-02-2012, 12:02 AM
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Look at you again.
What you typed does not matter for the current discussion.
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What I typed was directed at agzg since she questioned it. No, it does not matter for the current discussion.
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08-02-2012, 12:04 AM
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What I typed was directed at agzg since she questioned it. No, it does not matter for the current discussion.
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She probably knew what you meant (it is a pretty common yet simplistic argument) and just disagreed.
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