Medical School - Page 11

thewasher418 · #**151** 05-18-2012, 02:36 PM

This thread has been quiet for a bit, just wanted to bump it to give any med students out there a bit of encouragement! I'm not going to lie and say residency is easier, but you do get to actively DO something to help people, in a specialty you (hopefully) love!

Kappamd · #**152** 05-21-2012, 07:40 PM

Second the bump. I graduate in 362 days (but who's counting)! Just finished scheduling my fourth year electives, and am so excited about them! Good luck with the end of the year everyone!

NinjaPoodle · #**153** 05-22-2012, 11:03 PM

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Second the bump. I graduate in 362 days (but who's counting)! Just finished scheduling my fourth year electives, and am so excited about them! Good luck with the end of the year everyone!

Good luck to you in your fourth and final year!

Titchou · #**154** 05-31-2012, 03:47 PM

Oh come on. My ex (PhD in biological chem) taught at a med school. They give you a transcript of all lectures on day of. They don't even take roll. There is no way to flunk out of med school. It may be a lot of material but you aren't having to sit in class and takes notes...they spoon feed you.

Kappamd · #**155** 05-31-2012, 05:24 PM

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Oh come on. My ex (PhD in biological chem) taught at a med school. They give you a transcript of all lectures on day of. They don't even take roll. There is no way to flunk out of med school. It may be a lot of material but you aren't having to sit in class and takes notes...they spoon feed you.

HA. Your ex (who CLEARLY must be an expert in the curriculum of medical schools across the country having never actually been a medical student) clearly did not teach at my medical school.

Titchou · #**156** 05-31-2012, 06:08 PM

Well, then you clearly aren't at one of the better ones because he was....and it wasn't the only one he taught at and the same thing happened at the other one. Sorry you picked one without all the perks....because these two really have them....

LadyLonghorn · #**157** 05-31-2012, 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Titchou

Oh come on. My ex (PhD in biological chem) taught at a med school. They give you a transcript of all lectures on day of. They don't even take roll. There is no way to flunk out of med school. It may be a lot of material but you aren't having to sit in class and takes notes...they spoon feed you.

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Well, then you clearly aren't at one of the better ones because he was....and it wasn't the only one he taught at and the same thing happened at the other one. Sorry you picked one without all the perks....because these two really have them....

Oh wait. This isn't the If You Laugh You Lose thread?

Titchou · #**158** 05-31-2012, 06:42 PM

And, Lady Longhorn, one would probably be near and dear to your heart - considering your screen name!

Kappamd · #**159** 05-31-2012, 06:50 PM

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And, Lady Longhorn, one would probably be near and dear to your heart - considering your screen name!

Right. I'm sure Lady Longhorn is just crying her eyes out somewhere over your ignorant comments.

LadyLonghorn · #**160** 05-31-2012, 07:39 PM

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And, Lady Longhorn, one would probably be near and dear to your heart - considering your screen name!

The University of Texas System =/= The University of Texas

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Right. I'm sure Lady Longhorn is just crying her eyes out somewhere over your ignorant comments.

Yes I am just devastated.

Titchou · #**161** 05-31-2012, 07:44 PM

I know for a fact that at least one medical school in Texas and one in Alabama tell the professors to not take roll, require them to give their lectures in advance to a transcription service that sells them to the medical students and that these two institutions do not "flunk" students. My ex complained about it but it made no difference. That was school policy and he had to abide by it as long as he taught there.

I'm not saying these are bad medical schools. But it's a fact that one can repeat as many years of med school as needed to graduate because there really is no way they are going to tell you not to come back as long as someone is paying the bill. Administration looks at it this way: if someone flunks out then it means the school should not have accepted you in the first place and it looks bad on them. I've heard the discussion. Of course, they can strongly suggest you withdraw but that's not the same thing on their record. And you know what they call the person who graduates last in their class from med school.

thewasher418 · #**162** 05-31-2012, 11:25 PM

People can and do flunk out of med school. Not in the same numbers as some other schools, maybe, but that's how it's set up. The system is basically designed so that most of the attrition happens before enrollment- the number of aspiring pre-meds vs. the number of actual med school matriculants is astronomically different. Once you are in, most schools worth their salt have multiple support systems to help you succeed, but sometimes it just doesn't work out.

Note that I said most, not all, schools. Even I, who actually applied, entered, and finished one medical school wouldn't be so arrogant as to think I could make blanket statements about all of them. But please, Titchou, tell us more about the things you've heard and seen and how all schools follow the same pattern.

Titchou · #**163** 06-01-2012, 06:51 AM

All I can do is state my experience. My husband taught under these conditions. I heard numerous conversations at department and school events between the deans and chairs about these very issues at their schools and with comparisions to others. They were very open in those circles about it. Am sure the students would have been shocked as I was at first. But is seemed to be pretty pervasive to me!

AOII Angel · #**164** 06-01-2012, 08:28 AM

Your husband's experience isn't the ONLY experience. My class dropped by 10% after the first year and I graduated with four people that had originally started in other classes but failed classes in their first two years. You absolutely can fail medical school. Some schools DO check attendance. I had classes that I never went to, but I had others that would drop you a letter grade if you missed more than a certain number. And what your precious PhD doesn't tell you is that no matter what your attendance is, if you can't pass Step I of the USMLE, you can't pass second year of medical school. You get two chances...people DO flunk out of medical school for failing this test. The awesome thing is that people that go to medical school are smart and driven people who don't all have to go to class to make the grade. Unfortunately, some PhD professors at Medical Schools are jealous of their students potential and will continue to be jealous until the end of time. That is the truth of the matter.

DrPhil · #**165** 06-01-2012, 09:13 AM

I said to myself "let's see what the cool medical folks are talking about in that innocent and peaceful thread." I guess not.

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All I can do is state my experience.

You did not just state your experience. You tried to attach the experience of a few people and make a statement of the rigor of medical schools. It is laughable to tell people that their programs were a walk in the park. It is even more laughable when that assessment is based on nothing more than word of mouth and pillow talk.

My unsolicited advice to AOII Angel and others: Do not waste time explaining anything to someone who has never been in medical school. As for the jealous Ph.D. faculty in medical schools, I assume that applies to those who wish they had an M.D. rather than a Ph.D. because they aspire toward a different area of expertise. That is different than the perceived implication that (medical students and) an M.D. is the creme dela creme of terminal degrees.