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Old 06-27-2002, 02:26 PM
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No, I think that disease argument is b.s. too. We have Tay-Sachs, maybe it's more prevalent, but I don't think that your race centers around diseases you are more susceptible to.


Who is we?

I must not be saying this properly because a lot of you aren't seeing this point the way I am. People attach stereotypes to certain races, let's start with that. Jews have big noses, Irish red hair, African-Americans have dark black skin, Asians have small squinty eyes, you see where I'm going with this?

I do not see where you are going with this..."let's start with that." "Jews" are not a race, "Irish" are not a race..."African-Americans" are a race to you, so would blacks from other parts of the world be another race?

Now, those stereotypes are specifically linked to a race for that individual. Now, all I'm trying to say is when someone looks at you, they judge you as a certain race, whether you've checked it off on a box or not. That's the biological basis for race, what you see as the external features of a person.

Does that help at all?


RUgreek
For whom are these stereotypes linked to that individual? Just because a lot of people have a perception in their mind of certain people, does NOT mean they are right. The majority of the world has a skewed conception on a lot of things because of their lack of education...not because there is a biological basis for race.

There are black, asian, hispanic Jews. Within whites, or caucasians, there are even more categories that are lumped together...all in a social manner because someone lumped them together.

Even scientifically you make no sense...how can there be a phenotype without a genotype?? Within the category of caucasian, anglo-saxon and middle eastern are included. You claim that there are physical indicators (common traits associated with them) for race which make it biological, but that breaks down here. A person from the middle east will be darker and than someone who is anglo-saxon in many cases...even darker than someone who is latino possibly. Yet middle easterners and anglos are dumped into a broad category called white. Even the government has been having a great deal of trouble using "race" in the census...kinda hard to distinguish blacks who are hispanic for one example.

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