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Old 03-14-2012, 01:59 PM
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Did you know that the Minerva one was in reference to an NPHC sorority? I am still searching for the racial and ethnic mockery there beyond the nonlicensed (probably white) third party vendor's motives.
No I did not know that Minerva was a reference to an NPHC sorority as it is also a reference for Kappa. And I only used that one because DeltaBetaBabay thought that the use of the word "homeboy" was offensive and I was wondering if using "homegirl" would also be offensive.
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Old 03-14-2012, 02:36 PM
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Should NPC orgs, and white people in general, therefore avoid these references?
Nope, I just said that it doesn't sit well with me, and I wouldn't wear such a shirt if one were made for my group. Others are free to do whatever they want, and to feel however they want about the issue.

To offer another analogy, it feels to me a little like having a bachelorette party in a gay bar. There are still parts of the country where black women are largely unwelcome in NPC groups.
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Old 03-14-2012, 12:02 PM
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Just a note with the shirts I posted none of them are approved by the respective org. They are just shirts by a (popular) third party vendor.
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Old 03-14-2012, 02:02 PM
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Just a note with the shirts I posted none of them are approved by the respective org. They are just shirts by a (popular) third party vendor.
I just noticed that they are an official Greek Licensed company so I don't know if that means the shirts are approved or not.
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Old 03-14-2012, 02:07 PM
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I just noticed that they are an official Greek Licensed company so I don't know if that means the shirts are approved or not.
That doesn't mean that designs are approved. It means that they have paid a licensing fee to use registered trademarks of participating GLOs.

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Did you know that the Minerva one was in reference to an NPHC sorority?
No I did not know that Minerva was a reference to an NPHC sorority as it is also a reference for Kappa.
On the seller's website, it is marketed as a "Kappa Kappa Gamma Minerva HoodieBuddie." I can see how the color could suggest Delta rather than Kappa, though.

There are some ugly shirts on that site.
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Old 03-14-2012, 02:08 PM
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"It truly amazes me when people feel the need to publically critique organizations to which they do not belong."

"If you can't say something nice..."

Some of you are being so "small-minded."
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Old 03-14-2012, 02:37 PM
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"It truly amazes me when people feel the need to publically critique organizations to which they do not belong."


Since you quoted me, I'll point out that my quote was in response to your "amazement" that a specific sorority had not made membership a requirement or preference in its search for an executive director. You were criticizing the internal hiring decisions of a sorority other than your own.

And I'm sure you'll recall that the "if you can't say anything nice" quote came in response your response of "Ooooo...classy!" to a poster noting that some nationally-involved members of her sorority have tattoos.

Here in this thread, I and others engaged in conversation about a shirt (granted, offered through Phi Mu's in-house store) that a Phi Mu posted here, noting that she had asked her HQ (successfully, it would appear) to discontinue the shirt because she thought it could be seen by members and non-members alike as offensive. I don't think anyone in this thread has publically critiqued an organization to which they do not belong.

Swell try though.
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Old 03-14-2012, 01:19 PM
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Sorry for the double-post, but I just got an e-mail from HQ saying it will be taken down ASAP. Goodbye, blackface Sir Fidel.
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Old 03-14-2012, 09:35 PM
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For all of this throwing around of the Wizard of Oz in this thread, I would love for someone to tell me the last time it was used as a theme on a college campus. It's only older than my mom. (And I am no spring chicken, sadly.)
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Old 03-14-2012, 10:08 PM
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For all of this throwing around of the Wizard of Oz in this thread, I would love for someone to tell me the last time it was used as a theme on a college campus. It's only older than my mom. (And I am no spring chicken, sadly.)
Doesnt Phi MU frequently do the who "theres no place like home" with their letters for O and M during rush/bid day?

I thought of that too ElieM, thats what i was getting at with the whole what if it were all in pink question.
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Old 03-14-2012, 10:45 PM
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Doesnt Phi MU frequently do the who "theres no place like home" with their letters for O and M during rush/bid day?

I thought of that too ElieM, thats what i was getting at with the whole what if it were all in pink question.
I agree; it's most likely just a bad color choice. I really don't think anyone was like "hey, Sir Fidel would look great in blackface". However, this is the type of thing that not-Greeks love to latch onto...I could just picture it landing on some liberal blog where not just my org, but all Greeks, are torn to shreds over it.
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Old 03-15-2012, 01:10 AM
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For all of this throwing around of the Wizard of Oz in this thread, I would love for someone to tell me the last time it was used as a theme on a college campus. It's only older than my mom. (And I am no spring chicken, sadly.)
Someone else mentioned Phi Mu has... and my rush/bid day last semester was Wizard of Oz themed as well. It might be older than your mom, but it's also a classic.
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Old 03-14-2012, 09:39 PM
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I didn't think of it as blackface so much as trying to save money by only having one colour for the print
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Old 03-14-2012, 09:46 PM
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I think this thread went way off topic & became a train wreck 2 pages ago.

Can't you guys go back to posting ugly & stupid GLO para again?

That was fun....
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Old 03-14-2012, 10:48 PM
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I think this thread went way off topic & became a train wreck 2 pages ago.
This is hardly a train wreck.

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Can't you...go back to posting ugly & stupid GLO para again?

That was fun....
DeltaBetaBaby and Mevara posted ugly and stupid 'nalia. We are discussing what they posted. Feel free to post your own 'nalia if you don't like the discourse.

Was it fun? I guess it's all relative. I consider this to be more fun.

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I agree; it's most likely just a bad color choice. I really don't think anyone was like "hey, Sir Fidel would look great in blackface". However, this is the type of thing that not-Greeks love to latch onto...I could just picture it landing on some liberal blog where not just my org, but all Greeks, are torn to shreds over it.

Are you being sarcastic or backpedaling?

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