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Old 02-05-2012, 12:52 AM
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LOL...I always love that is one of the first things quoted against involved parents...There is a HUGE difference between helping your children during the college years (while their brain is still maturing, btw) & calling up Steve Jobs to complain about their performance raise.


Here is a possible question...Maybe Mom was a Sigma....article doesn't state one way or the other.
A 20 year old is old enough to be out on their own with their own children. When do you draw the line? And don't act like it doesn't happen, because we all know it does. BTW, I am quite aware of the maturation rate of the human brain. It still doesn't excuse this type of behavior in helicopter parents.
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Old 02-05-2012, 01:05 AM
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A 20 year old is old enough to be out on their own with their own children. When do you draw the line? And don't act like it doesn't happen, because we all know it does. BTW, I am quite aware of the maturation rate of the human brain. It still doesn't excuse this type of behavior in helicopter parents.
I agree. Helping a child = moral support, not doing things FOR the child. If daughter had wanted to go to Sigma headquarters, and mom decided to drive her there, or even be present (but quiet) for the meeting***, it would be a whole separate matter. The fact is that mom tried to fix it, instead of helping her daughter learn how to best fix it.

***this depends on the type of meeting, too. If there were a legitimate meeting with, say, more than one Sigma rep, I would think it fair that daughter gets to bring a parent/lawyer/whomever so as not to be outnumbered.
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Old 02-06-2012, 02:28 PM
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I agree. Helping a child = moral support, not doing things FOR the child. If daughter had wanted to go to Sigma headquarters, and mom decided to drive her there, or even be present (but quiet) for the meeting***, it would be a whole separate matter.

***this depends on the type of meeting, too. If there were a legitimate meeting with, say, more than one Sigma rep, I would think it fair that daughter gets to bring a parent/lawyer/whomever so as not to be outnumbered.
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If mom was going to visit HQ...it should have been done only as support. & encouraging daughter to speak on her own behalf.

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"Until you are mother" is such a crap cop out. We don't have kids. My wife is a high school teacher... I guess until she's a mother, she's unfit to teach children? I handle a lot of child custody cases and represent children pro bono in the juvenile system against their idiot parents... I guess I'm unfit to do that because I don't have children myself?
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Sometimes 18 to 21 year old girls need their mothers more then 14 yr olds do...& until you are mother of one - Please do not be so quick to judge a mother's choice to assist her daughter if she was crying for help.

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How did what I say imply your wife didn't have the ability to teach?

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This whole situation puzzles me. I have no idea of the legal case she has. If she really was harassed I don't understand why she stayed. If she wasn't, it doesn't sound like her case would hold up. I can't tell too much detail from the articles and I don't want to prejudge either this woman or any of the other sisters that are involved, but this is just unfortunate all around. Like others have said, it sounds like a bad fit from the get go and just a lot of unpleasantness ever since. I'll reserve other comments until after the trial, if it gets that far. But again, I really hope this is resolved quickly.
Hopefully it will end soon for all parties involved.
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Old 02-06-2012, 03:58 PM
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How did what I say imply your wife didn't have the ability to teach?
The implication that until you're a parent, you can't possibly empathize or understand something is ridiculous.
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Old 02-06-2012, 04:07 PM
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The implication that until you're a parent, you can't possibly empathize or understand something is ridiculous.
Not to mention, we can all see bad parenting a mile away.
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