Pay us, we'll help you get a bid

[Old_Row]

Originally Posted by FSUZeta

Excerpted from the NY Times article:

"Samantha von Sperling is an image consultant in New York, but lately her bread-and-butter Wall Street clients have asked her to help their daughters get ready for rush at schools like Harvard; the University of Wisconsin, Madison; and New York University, which has added three chapters since 2006 and more than doubled the number of sisters, to 570."

Ladies, what are we doing wrong? This woman charges $8000 for a Friday thru Sunday session. I just spent an hour with a terrific young woman today for free!

Why would PNMs need a rush consultant for schools like that? Lightweights.

[DeltaBetaBaby]

Originally Posted by Old_Row

Why would PNMs need a rush consultant for schools like that? Lightweights.

That was my thought, exactly. I was like "Hm, maybe I don't know something about one of these schools, but if it's north of the M-D, and it's not Indiana, I wouldn't even THINK about paying for help."

ETA: It's even weirder, too, because nobody gives a s**t what sorority you are in after graduation if you went to Harvard or NYU.

[FSUZeta]

Originally Posted by Old_Row

Why would PNMs need a rush consultant for schools like that? Lightweights.

From my thoughts to your keyboard.

[FSUZeta]

Perhaps the prestige of the school outweighs the prestige of the sorority?

[AXOrushadvisor]

Here is what I don't get. My personality is my personality. No amount of coaching is going to change that. Now if my first day outfit has my family vault hanging out and a Coach tells me that is not a good idea I just have no common sense or fashion sense. What exactly are these Coaches doing for these young women that they can not find in a book or online?

[Titchou]

They have had heli mom telling them what to do for almost 2 decades. Do you really think they are going to research it for themselves? Some of these folks need a coach like the ladies of the past needed "finishing schools." Trust me, they need someone to tell them that hoochie mama dress is a faux pas for pref night....

[shirley1929]

Originally Posted by AXOrushadvisor

Here is what I don't get. My personality is my personality. No amount of coaching is going to change that. Now if my first day outfit has my family vault hanging out and a Coach tells me that is not a good idea I just have no common sense or fashion sense. What exactly are these Coaches doing for these young women that they can not find in a book or online?

Originally Posted by Titchou

They have had heli mom telling them what to do for almost 2 decades. Do you really think they are going to research it for themselves? Some of these folks need a coach like the ladies of the past needed "finishing schools." Trust me, they need someone to tell them that hoochie mama dress is a faux pas for pref night....

What Tichou said. I'm not condoning it at all, but think about how appalled people were 10+ years ago when families started paying College Admissions Counselors for their assistance. Now, it's pretty commonplace for some groups of people. Can you find all that information online? Sure, but if I have the $$ to have someone else deal with it (and deal with keeping my child on a timeline) then why not?

Today it's the Rush Counselor - same song, different verse. Girls won't listen to their mother's advice, but they might listen to someone else. If mama has the $$, then she can put that task on someone else...

[Munchkin03]

The same people who are paying for these consultants (at least in the Northeast and the Atlanta suburbs, some of which are made up predominantly of people from the Northeast) are the same people who probably paid for their kids to have college admissions consultants.

There's a class of Americans who are used to farming out everything; if this wasn't your experience or your world, like it is for most of us, this is just one more of those things.

[amIblue?]

Originally Posted by 33girl

I mean isn't part of the whole point of Southern or preppy or what-have-you privilege the fact that you don't talk about it?

Yes, but the people using these services are trying to become part of that culture rather than already having been part of it.

Originally Posted by SWTXBelle

The first rule of recruitment preparation club:
You don't talk about recruitment preparation club.

LOVE!

Originally Posted by Munchkin03

The same people who are paying for these consultants (at least in the Northeast and the Atlanta suburbs, some of which are made up predominantly of people from the Northeast) are the same people who probably paid for their kids to have college admissions consultants.

There's a class of Americans who are used to farming out everything; if this wasn't your experience or your world, like it is for most of us, this is just one more of those things.

I worked with tons of kids in Atlanta teaching SAT prep, which was absolutely unheard of in my part of the world when I was in high school. You've hit the nail on the head. Some of these kids probably have coaches for wiping their behinds.

[aephi alum]

Originally Posted by SWTXBelle

The first rule of recruitment preparation club:
You don't talk about recruitment preparation club.

LMAO!!! *wipes water off monitor*

Originally Posted by shirley1929

What Tichou said. I'm not condoning it at all, but think about how appalled people were 10+ years ago when families started paying College Admissions Counselors for their assistance. Now, it's pretty commonplace for some groups of people. Can you find all that information online? Sure, but if I have the $$ to have someone else deal with it (and deal with keeping my child on a timeline) then why not?

Today it's the Rush Counselor - same song, different verse. Girls won't listen to their mother's advice, but they might listen to someone else. If mama has the $$, then she can put that task on someone else...

As my husband likes to say, "Wherever there's a deep human need, there's money to be made." It's true of the world's oldest profession. It's true of all these spammers peddling cheap Viagra. It's true of people who want to "help" young people get into top universities or parents who want their children to get into top universities. And it's true of people who want to "help" young women get into what they (the young women) consider top sororities. (And for the young women in question, all the advice you need is right here on GC for free.)

[AZTheta]

AzTheta thinks AXOrushadvisor and Titchou are spot on. AzTheta likes referring to AzTheta in the third person. But it is a lot more tedious to type out than simply using "I". So AzTheta is reconsidering this affectation.

[shirley1929]

Originally Posted by AzTheta

AzTheta thinks AXOrushadvisor and Titchou are spot on. AzTheta likes referring to AzTheta in the third person. But it is a lot more tedious to type out than simply using "I". So AzTheta is reconsidering this affectation.

Jinx! We hit at the same time!

[Titchou]

Originally Posted by AzTheta

AzTheta thinks AXOrushadvisor and Titchou are spot on. AzTheta likes referring to AzTheta in the third person. But it is a lot more tedious to type out than simply using "I". So AzTheta is reconsidering this affectation.

Please don't - I rather like it.

[shirley1929]

Originally Posted by Titchou

Please don't - I rather like it.

Don't you mean "Tichou rather likes it"?

[Greek_or_Geek?]

Originally Posted by AzTheta

AzTheta thinks AXOrushadvisor and Titchou are spot on. AzTheta likes referring to AzTheta in the third person. But it is a lot more tedious to type out than simply using "I". So AzTheta is reconsidering this affectation.

I'm pretty certain she does that to improve her search engine rankings. The algorithms are partially based on the number of times you are mentioned on third party sites. She's been a big spammer in the past on my organization's Facebook page as well as the NPC pages and I've even seen her show up on local alumnae group pages too. I'm not sure what she has been doing lately since I blocked her a long time ago for her tiresomeness.