1911 United: Re-elect President Obama

[DrPhil]

In that case, no. Those Omegas and Kappas are simply combining efforts for Obama's re-election because of the 1911/100th anniversary thing. It's catchy.

[DubaiSis]

I think members of these organizations can support re-election of President Obama for a lot more than just being black. Duh. I can't pretend to know what the American media has been saying about the president but if you list out the substantial (and controversial) things he's accomplished, a person might start to think there are parties out there who just want to bring him down regardless of the facts. (/sarcasm )

I wish he had taken more risks over the last 4 years, and I'd like to see him win re-election to handle a couple more issues that I think can probably only be handled by a lame-duck president - Cuba for instance. And bringing down Citizens United. And finding a reason to throw the Koch brothers in jail. They've done such a great job of keeping racism and hate alive in America; having a bunch of smart, powerful, savvy black men go after them would be awesome.

And by the way, people vote for president because he's "like me" all the time. What was this crap about voting for Bush because you could drink a beer with him? If a bunch of educated successful professional black guys (and gals of course) want to vote for President Obama because he's like them, what's the problem?

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by DubaiSis

And by the way, people vote for president because he's "like me" all the time. What was this crap about voting for Bush because you could drink a beer with him? If a bunch of educated successful professional black guys (and gals of course) want to vote for President Obama because he's like them, what's the problem?

The difference is that never before has there been an option to choose a candidate primarily based on racial and ethnic similarity. All of the other competitive presidential candidates and presidents were white so whites would be choosing someone of the same race regardless of who they liked. Whiteness is often considered invisible so, although whites have a race and ethnicity, the average white person would neither admit to choosing presidential hopefuls based on race nor admit to making sure there is no support for certain presidential hopefuls based on race.

The same goes for when there is a woman as president...if ever. There will understandably be the excitement of voting for a woman and, for some women, it will take a total failure of a president who is a woman to make many women betray the womanhood selection. But, I know that it would take something as minute as a mosquito at the White House to piss voters off enough to criticize and not want to re-elect a woman, racial and ethnic minority, openly homosexual, (insert other power minority group) president.

People can tolerate a whoooooooooole lot from white men but only from white men. People unfortunately called George W. Bush an idiot but they did not turn against white men as presidents (and white men, in general) because of him. And regardless of what people consciously claim because they do not want to be labeled as racist, there are a lot of Americans who think North America's attempt at presidential diversity and "giving Blacks a chance to run the country" has failed if President Obama has failed. There will be no second chance any time soon if whites as the majority decide President Obama needs to sit his LightskinnededBlackass down. (President Obama's conveniently considered biracial with a white mother when white people like him but when white people dislike him he's Black, with a Black family, and he is just like any other Black man who plays basketball LOL)

I am a bit amused that this thread turned into a discussion of this, thanks to Psi U MC Vito.

[DubaiSis]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

I am a bit amused that this thread turned into a discussion of this, thanks to Psi U MC Vito.

You couldn't have expected it any other way, right? And, off topic, I saw a black woman professor from Tulane on The Colbert Report talking about the 4 stereotypes of black women and thought of you. Not because of which stereotype you live with but because I pictured you going on a tear about it (in a good way ) If you haven't seen it, Dr. Phil, I'd love for you to find it and comment back.

[MysticCat]

Originally Posted by NutBrnHair

Please insert "by Omega Psi Phi and Kappa Alpha Psi" after the word term.

While you're at it, you should also insert "members of" before the word "Omega." Both Dr. Phil and the website to which she linked were clear:

Originally Posted by DrPhil

"Members of" is an important note because the actual fraternities (NHQ) do not officially endorse political parties and candidates.

Originally Posted by 1911 United wesbite

1911 United is an independent political committee and is not affiliated with or otherwise sponsored by any other organization, including Omega Psi Phi Fraternity Inc. and Kappa Alpha Psi Fraternity Inc.

[amIblue?]

Regarding the "like me" part of voting: if I heard a female say it once in 2008 about Sarah Palin, I heard it a gazillion times. To which I could only respond, "No, I like you; you're nothing like that nut."

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by DubaiSis

You couldn't have expected it any other way, right? And, off topic, I saw a black woman professor from Tulane on The Colbert Report talking about the 4 stereotypes of black women and thought of you. Not because of which stereotype you live with but because I pictured you going on a tear about it (in a good way ) If you haven't seen it, Dr. Phil, I'd love for you to find it and comment back.

There is a reason why that was on The Colbert Report.

Originally Posted by amIblue?

Regarding the "like me" part of voting: if I heard a female say it once in 2008 about Sarah Palin, I heard it a gazillion times. To which I could only respond, "No, I like you; you're nothing like that nut."

Republican women, predominantly white women, are the majority of the women who claimed Sarah Palin was "like them."

Sarah Palin's alleged stupidity was somewhat buffered by Hilary Clinton's alleged awesomeness. Plus, Palin was only a V.P. hopeful whereas Clinton was a Presidential hopeful.

A lot of Black women expressed the Black Feminist conflict that has gone on for generations: Do I align with Obama because he is "like me" racially or do I align with Clinton because she is "like me" in terms of gender?

(Sure, we can claim that we only align ourselves based on policies and political platforms but the gender, racial and ethnic, religious, socioeconomic status, education, and other demographics of candidates have always mattered.)

[Cen1aur 1963]

Originally Posted by PiKA2001

How do you know he's white?

For the same reason I can tell that you're white.

[amIblue?]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

Republican women, predominantly white women, are the majority of the women who claimed Sarah Palin was "like them."

Sarah Palin's alleged stupidity was somewhat buffered by Hilary Clinton's alleged awesomeness. Plus, Palin was only a V.P. hopeful whereas Clinton was a Presidential hopeful.

Yeah, strangely enough, a lot of the women I know from sorority life and church are predominantly white and, unfortunately, predominantly Republican.

The Republican thing is a cross to bear, let me tell you. I've learned to keep my mouth shut in social situations because otherwise it becomes a whole lot of awkward.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by amIblue?

Yeah, strangely enough, a lot of the women I know from sorority life and church are predominantly white and, unfortunately, predominantly Republican.

The Republican thing is a cross to bear, let me tell you. I've learned to keep my mouth shut in social situations because otherwise it becomes a whole lot of awkward.

Both Democrat and Republican are bowls of feces.

[Ghostwriter]

Originally Posted by amIblue?

Yeah, strangely enough, a lot of the women I know from sorority life and church are predominantly white and, unfortunately, predominantly Republican.

The Republican thing is a cross to bear, let me tell you. I've learned to keep my mouth shut in social situations because otherwise it becomes a whole lot of awkward.

No stupid Dems, huh! Maybe you should poll people in all 57 states.

[DrPhil]

Thanks to 1911 United for bringing so many issues to the forefront:

1. Obama is Black but is that why some people support him?
2. Sarah Palin may not be "like me."
3. Democrats and Republicans have stinky feet.

[amIblue?]

Originally Posted by Ghostwriter

Originally Posted by Ghostwriter

No stupid Dems, huh! Maybe you should poll people in all 57 states.

I didn't say Republicans were stupid. I said Palin was a nut.

I didn't say I was a Democrat, either. (I'm not.) I just find the Republicans to be a special pain in the butt.

Thanks to 1911 United for bringing so many issues to the forefront:

1. Obama is Black but is that why some people support him?
2. Sarah Palin may not be "like me."
3. Democrats and Republicans have stinky feet.

DrPhil, you always start the best threads.

[iotamason]

Cain is still Able....

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by amIblue?

I didn't say Republicans were stupid. I said Palin was a nut.

I didn't say I was a Democrat, either. (I'm not.) I just find the Republicans to be a special pain in the butt.

Republicans are a pain in the right cheek. Democrats are a pain in the left cheek. The Independents and other affiliations are all over the place so they are a pain in the assssssshoooooooole.

Originally Posted by amIblue?

DrPhil, you always start the best threads.