Starting a KKG chapter

[DrPhil]

This thread makes absolutely no sense.

Long story short, is the flouncing OP really the friend of an unable-to-research-on-her-own Kappa hopeful who thinks he knows it all OR is the flouncing OP really the friend in question?

[princessamy]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

This thread makes absolutely no sense.

Long story short, is the flouncing OP really the friend of an unable-to-research-on-her-own Kappa hopeful who thinks he knows it all OR is the flouncing OP really the friend in question?

I think here he claims to be a Phi Kappa Tau.

Originally Posted by dandrewporter

Hey guys and gals. the name is dandrew. (:
a proud brother of phi kappa tau!

I just don't get why he is soo eager in helping out his "friend"

[TSteven]

Originally Posted by princessamy

I just don't get why he is soo eager in helping out his "friend"

Maybe he is a nice guy. A trait that is rather common with Kentucky men.

[thetalady]

Originally Posted by princessamy

I just don't get why he is soo eager in helping out his "friend"

I think he secretly wants to be the new KKG house mom and wear the sequined pink tights!

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by thetalady

I think he secretly wants to be the new KKG house mom and wear the sequined pink tights!

Not a gay joke though, right?

[thetalady]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

Not a gay joke though, right?

Geez... sorry to have caused offense. No, I was not making a gay slur. I was just thinking that this guy seems AWFULLY invested, bordering on obsessed, with this whole thing. I am sure that KKG has had her fill of wackos in the past. They don't need another one.

[TSteven]

Originally Posted by thetalady

I think he secretly wants to be the new KKG house mom and wear the sequined pink tights!

Wow.

[AlphaFrog]

Oh, lighten up you guys. He opened the can of worms himself by getting involved in something that really isn't his business. If he's offended, I'm sure he's perfectly capable of letting us know. Honestly, I didn't even think of his sexual orientation when I read thetalady's post. It seemed to reflect more of his seemingly overexhuberant affections for Kappa.

[ree-Xi]

I don't get this guy. It's not like it's 1800 something and a group of girls need some fraternity member or professor to help them create a sorority because at the time, there were few women on campus or female social outlets.

The women in the NPC have been doing just fine for the past century and don't need some "boy" to guide them along in the process.

[amIblue?]

At first, because of the OP's post on the "Greeks dating GDI" thread, I thought he was motivated to get Kappa to Murray State so that he would still be able to keep his girlfriend. Then he said he was gay. Now, I'm with you. I don't get his motivation. Whatevs. It was fun telling him he was wrong repeatedly.

[TSteven]

Maybe I'm missing something, but how would an alleged interest group interested in Kappa Kappa Gamma be wrong in following one of Kappa Kappa Gamma’s procedures for extension? I suspect that Kappa Kappa Gamma follows NPC guidelines as well.

The following is from the link proved by AZ-AlphaXi regarding Kappa Kappa Gamma’s process on extension.

There are two ways to establish a Kappa chapter according to the Fraternity Bylaws:
1. Colonization by membership selection
2. Acceptance of a petition from a qualified group of women

And above that quote, the Kappa Kappa Gamma website alludes to NPC policy.

The Extension Committee of the National Panhellenic Conference will assist any campus wishing to add an NPC sorority chapter or establish a Panhellenic system. The Extension Committee will also assist a local sorority wishing to affiliate with Kappa Kappa Gamma or any other National Panhellenic Conference member group.

(The bolding is mine)

[amIblue?]

Originally Posted by TSteven

Maybe I'm missing something, but how would an alleged interest group interested in Kappa Kappa Gamma be wrong in following one of Kappa Kappa Gamma’s procedures for extension? I suspect that Kappa Kappa Gamma follows NPC guidelines as well.

The following is from the link proved by AZ-AlphaXi regarding Kappa Kappa Gamma’s process on extension.



And above that quote, the Kappa Kappa Gamma website alludes to NPC policy.



(The bolding is mine)

No, that's how we go about colonizing.

The wrong part is that you don't start with Kappa (it's even on Kappa's website). You start with Panhellenic. There's a link on Kappa's page to this site:

http://www.npcwomen.org/extension-info.aspx

Here's some text (bold is mine) for you from the linked site for you to reflect on, which has been reiterated throughout this thread.

The NPC Extension Committee acts as the clearinghouse for both colleges and NPC groups by monitoring the development and/or extension of Panhellenic communities according to NPC extension protocol. This protocol is based on binding agreements followed by all 26 NPC member groups. It is critical to note that NPC groups will colonize only at appropriately accredited, bachelor degree-granting colleges and universities if permission has been granted by what we term the “Proper Authority.” The identity of the Proper Authority depends on the particular situation and is described more fully in the materials available for download. The NPC Extension Committee serves to verify that the Proper Authority has granted permission and is also available to advise and assist in the various approaches of establishing chapters of NPC member groups. As you begin the extension process, it's important to understand the basic terminology. Please download the Glossary of Terms for more information.

If Murray State is open for expansion, organizations who are interested are going to be given the opportunity to present to Panhellenic. Panhellenic will then vote to see who will colonize.

There's also evidence that Murray State is not in need of another NPC org. The OP also admitted that his friend likely got cut from the group she wanted to join and is interested in starting her own group because the existing orgs aren't up to snuff. A group of 18 women at a school of the size of Murray State (where Greek life is only 10% of the student population) could completely turn around an organization and their campus reputation if they wanted to.

Finally, it's just freaking weird for a dude to be this interested in getting a sorority started.

[indygphib]

Originally Posted by amIblue?

Finally, it's just freaking weird for a dude to be this interested in getting a sorority started.

^^^THIS. I also think that there is a bizarre plumenchilada vibe to this person's posts.

[naraht]

Originally Posted by amIblue?

Finally, it's just freaking weird for a dude to be this interested in getting a sorority started.

Getting Kappa Kappa Gamma (or *any* NPC), yes.

For some of the groups which are more paired with each other, it doesn't seem quite as wierd to me. I can easily imagine a Phi Beta Sigma brother wanting to bring Zeta Phi Beta on campus. Or a Phi Mu Alpha Sinfonia trying to bring Sigma Alpha Iota. Or 40 years ago, an Alpha Phi Omega brother trying to being Gamma Sigma Sigma or Omega Phi Alpha. None of those apply here of course.

[KDCat]

Originally Posted by TSteven

Maybe I'm missing something, but how would an alleged interest group interested in Kappa Kappa Gamma be wrong in following one of Kappa Kappa Gamma’s procedures for extension? I suspect that Kappa Kappa Gamma follows NPC guidelines as well.

The following is from the link proved by AZ-AlphaXi regarding Kappa Kappa Gamma’s process on extension.



And above that quote, the Kappa Kappa Gamma website alludes to NPC policy.



(The bolding is mine)

The point was that a group of women cannot just call up an NPC sorority and invite them to campus. It's not like buying a McDonald's franchise. They have to go through the NPC expansion procedure.

If there are two or more NPC sororities on campus then the campus Panhel has to vote to accept another NPC sorority on campus. After that happens, NPC groups will send letters of interest and will make presentations regarding expansion.