A disconnect with legacies?

Low C Sharp · #1 01-03-2012, 03:32 PM

Exaggeration aside, it's interesting to speculate which schools/chapters really do have the largest legacy-to-quota ratio. Indiana makes sense because of its quota system -- and some of the older chapters have a smaller number of beds. I imagine the organizations at Texas that have lots of other chapters in the state would have to be up there too.

carnation · #2 07-16-2012, 08:32 PM

I'm still seeing very few legacies get bids at their legacy houses at the more competitive schools. You guys who've been involved at the schools with the mega-pledge classes (80 and up): are your sororities pledging more legacies?

greekdee · #3 07-20-2012, 02:26 AM

I know three girls who pledged their mother's sororities last year (Chi O, Zeta and Alpha Chi Omega), but I really am seeing and hearing more and more about girls getting dropped by their legacy chapters...UNLESS they have a bio sister in a sorority and attend the same school while sis is still an undergrad.

I had three PNMs (at different schools) one year who were in that situation. All three were dropped after second round by every chapter except the one their bio sisters were members of.

I have long noticed that bio sisters on the same campus usually pledge the same sorority. For years, I assumed it was family thing, but now I wonder. Does the younger sister pledge because it's the sorority she truly wants, or is it because she wasn't given any other options? Hmmmm....

FSUZeta · #4 07-20-2012, 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by greekdee

I know three girls who pledged their mother's sororities last year (Chi O, Zeta and Alpha Chi Omega), but I really am seeing and hearing more and more about girls getting dropped by their legacy chapters...UNLESS they have a bio sister in a sorority and attend the same school while sis is still an undergrad.

I had three PNMs (at different schools) one year who were in that situation. All three were dropped after second round by every chapter except the one their bio sisters were members of.

I have long noticed that bio sisters on the same campus usually pledge the same sorority. For years, I assumed it was family thing, but now I wonder. Does the younger sister pledge because it's the sorority she truly wants, or is it because she wasn't given any other options? Hmmmm....

Me too.

AOII Angel · #5 07-20-2012, 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by greekdee

I know three girls who pledged their mother's sororities last year (Chi O, Zeta and Alpha Chi Omega), but I really am seeing and hearing more and more about girls getting dropped by their legacy chapters...UNLESS they have a bio sister in a sorority and attend the same school while sis is still an undergrad.

I had three PNMs (at different schools) one year who were in that situation. All three were dropped after second round by every chapter except the one their bio sisters were members of.

I have long noticed that bio sisters on the same campus usually pledge the same sorority. For years, I assumed it was family thing, but now I wonder. Does the younger sister pledge because it's the sorority she truly wants, or is it because she wasn't given any other options? Hmmmm....

I was in that situation. I technically wasn't given a choice since everyone cut me after I asked them all if they knew my sister the AOII (PNMs, don't do that.) But, depending on how close the sisters are in age, there may be a feeling of loyalty to the sister that supersedes the process. I honestly would have felt really weird being in another sorority than my sister. Do I think I would have been given a chance at another group had I not given them the impression I was all in at AOII? Sure... My campus LOVED to poach other groups legacies! I think it is really hard to draw conclusions without talking to the girls about their experiences.

FSUZeta · #6 07-20-2012, 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by AOII Angel

I was in that situation. I technically wasn't given a choice since everyone cut me after I asked them all if they knew my sister the AOII (PNMs, don't do that.) But, depending on how close the sisters are in age, there may be a feeling of loyalty to the sister that supersedes the process. I honestly would have felt really weird being in another sorority than my sister. Do I think I would have been given a chance at another group had I not given them the impression I was all in at AOII? Sure... My campus LOVED to poach other groups legacies! I think it is really hard to draw conclusions without talking to the girls about their experiences.

That was the climate at FSU in the late 70's early 80's but that has not been the case for a some time. What I am seeing now is that chapters are not willing to take a chance on a legacy, especially if the legacy chapter is a chapter that is popular with the PNMs. The best chance the legacy has is to not be invited back to her legacy group early in the recruitment process, so that other groups see that she is now "fair game."

AOII Angel · #7 07-20-2012, 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by FSUZeta

That was the climate at FSU in the late 70's early 80's but that has not been the case for a some time. What I am seeing now is that chapters are not willing to take a chance on a legacy, especially if the legacy chapter is a chapter that is popular with the PNMs. The best chance the legacy has is to not be invited back to her legacy group early in the recruitment process, so that other groups see that she is now "fair game."

That's FSU. I think we should be really clear that at really competitive recruitments this may be an issue. Other locations it probably is not.

ForeverRoses · #8 07-20-2012, 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Low C Sharp

Exaggeration aside, it's interesting to speculate which schools/chapters really do have the largest legacy-to-quota ratio. Indiana makes sense because of its quota system -- and some of the older chapters have a smaller number of beds. I imagine the organizations at Texas that have lots of other chapters in the state would have to be up there too.

At Indiana, at least for us, if we extended a bid to every legacy that registered for recruitment, it would easily be half our new member class. However with now 22 chapters, it's not uncommon for girls to be legacies to more than one chapter, and not uncommon for legacies to cut their legacy chapters.