HARD or SOFT?

[MysticCat]

Neither. I'll go with crisp. Cookies should not be hard or soft (blech to both), they should be crispy.

[SWTXBelle]

Depends on the cookie.

Gingersnap should be hard.
Pfeffernusse should be soft.
Chocolate chip should be soft.
Oatmeal should be hard.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by MysticCat

Neither. I'll go with crisp. Cookies should not be hard or soft (blech to both), they should be crispy.

Crispy is a version of hard.

Ya know what...nevermind...just leave the thread! Leave the thread NOW, I say! You're messing up the data.

ETA: IrishLake, yes, crispy is the less-sexy sibling of hard. No, these are not euphemisms. Why would you say that? Why would eating cookies give you contractions?

[christiangirl]

Originally Posted by IrishLake

If I have a hard cookie, I tend to have a few contractions along with it.

iLOL

Team Warm & Soft. Cold and Hard makes me think of dead people and I would rather not associate such things with my deliciousness.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by christiangirl

Cold and Hard makes me think of dead people and I would rather not associate such things with my deliciousness.

I agree. Cannibalism and necrophilia are disgusting thoughts.

I like room temperature hard Oreos. I guess the only time Oreos should be soft and warm is when they have been in the oven or are fried at the state fair. SWTXBelle is correct that it depends on the cookie. Molasses cookies--the middle between hard and soft. Gingerbread cookies--hard but I'm open to allowing a soft one to tickle my taste buds.

[MysticCat]

Originally Posted by SWTXBelle

Depends on the cookie.

. . . Oatmeal should be hard.

Not the oatmeal cookies I grew up on and make now. They're fairly thin and crisp. They're the best, as far as I'm concerned.

Originally Posted by IrishLake

Crispy? MC, wth kind of cookies are crispy, besides wafers? I thin crispy is related to hard.

Originally Posted by DrPhil

Crispy is a version of hard.

No, crisp would be between hard and soft. When I think of hard cookies, I think of things like overcooked, dry or just plain bad homemade cookies or of many store-bought cookies like original Chips Ahoy. Chips Ahoy could double as hockey pucks.

I would classify as crispy a good shortbread, my aforementioned oatmeal cookies, tea cakes (hey, it's Christmastime, and they're the traditional Christmas cookies of my childhood) or a good gingerbread cookie. I would also include Oreos or Vienna Fingers.

Originally Posted by DrPhil

Ya know what...nevermind...just leave the thread! Leave the thread NOW, I say! You're messing up the data.

What, you think just because you started this thread, you own it? You are not the boss of me.

Besides, I didn't even bring up how unappealing chocolate chip cookies are.

[SWTXBelle]

Shortbread is neither hard nor soft. If it is perfect, it exists in a state of tension between the two - bottom is firmer, but top is buttery soft. It should literally melt in your mouth.

Now I need cookies and the house is currently cookie-free.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by MysticCat

Not the oatmeal cookies I grew up on and make now. They're fairly thin and crisp. They're the best, as far as I'm concerned.

Prove it!

Originally Posted by MysticCat

No, crisp would be between hard and soft. When I think of hard cookies, I think of things like overcooked, dry or just plain bad homemade cookies or of many store-bought cookies like original Chips Ahoy. Chips Ahoy could double as hockey pucks.

I would classify as crispy a good shortbread, my aforementioned oatmeal cookies, tea cakes (hey, it's Christmastime, and they're the traditional Christmas cookies of my childhood) or a good gingerbread cookie. I would also include Oreos or Vienna Fingers.

What, you think just because you started this thread, you own it? You are not the boss of me.

Besides, I didn't even bring up how unappealing chocolate chip cookies are.

LOL. I move that we bring back GC Court and GC Law and Order. There is so much wrong stuff in your post. This is out of control. LOL.

Originally Posted by christiangirl

I guess I technically prefer my Oreos soft because I prefer them after a dunk in some milk. That's not warm, though. But a soft cookie, straight out of the oven.....yes. Just yes.

I forgot about Oreos and milk.

SPLASH SPLASH!!!!

I am eating a NutterButter right now. Those are meant to be HARD.

[MysticCat]

Originally Posted by SWTXBelle

Shortbread is neither hard nor soft. If it is perfect, it exists in a state of tension between the two - bottom is firmer, but top is buttery soft. It should literally melt in your mouth.

Exactly! And that state of tension between the two is what I'm calling crisp. They're hard enough that there's a snap when you break them, but soft enough that there's no crunch when you chew them. If you have a better word than "crisp," I'm open to suggestions.

Originally Posted by DrPhil

Prove it!

Tell me where to bring a batch.

LOL. I move that we bring back GC Court and GC Law and Order. There is so much wrong stuff in your post. This is out of control. LOL.

LOL yourself. The only thing wrong with my post is that it's the truth, and you can't handle the truth. So there.

Besides, I'm Chief Justice.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by MysticCat

LOL yourself. The only thing wrong with my post is that it's the truth, and you can't handle the truth. So there.

Besides, I'm Chief Justice.

LOL backatcha. The gloves are off, Mr. Chief Justice. The only part of your previous post that I will address is your hatred for chocolate chip cookies. You have clearly never had a good one which is why you are confused over this whole cookies thing. I have put your vote under Team Hard. Team Soft is still winning.

Please send your baked goods to 2300 Jackson Street Gary, Indiana 46407. They will be hard when I receive them but I'll either dip them in milk or put them in the microwave for a few seconds. Much obliged.

[MysticCat]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

LOL backatcha. The gloves are off, Mr. Chief Justice. The only part of your previous post that I will address is your hatred for chocolate chip cookies. You have clearly never had a good one.

RIFL, my good doctor. I didn't say I hate them. I said they are unappealing, which is quite a different thing. I do not hate them, but neither do I find them irresistible like some people do. It is very easy for me to pass them up, because I do not find them be worth the effort involved in chewing. I do not hate them; I simply don't want them.

I have put your vote under Team Hard. Team Soft is still winning.

You fail to grasp that you have an underlying problem that is undermining the credibility and reliability of your data: assuming that there are only two categories, hard and soft, and trying to force all cookies to fit those two categories. You compound that error by assuming all share your perception of hardness and softness. Tsk.

[IrishLake]

Originally Posted by SWTXBelle

Shortbread is neither hard nor soft. If it is perfect, it exists in a state of tension between the two - bottom is firmer, but top is buttery soft. It should literally melt in your mouth.

Now I need cookies and the house is currently cookie-free.

Fuck me, I would kill for a Panera shortbread cookie right now.

Originally Posted by MysticCat

Exactly! And that state of tension between the two is what I'm calling crisp. They're hard enough that there's a snap when you break them, but soft enough that there's no crunch when you chew them. If you have a better word than "crisp," I'm open to suggestions.

To me, crisp = crunch. There is no "crunch" in what Belle described. When talking about a good shortbread cookie, I would call it firm, or perhaps dense. But crisp or hard.... no. They might be cohesive enough so that there is that snap when you break it in half, but the texture is not crispy nor crunchy.

[MysticCat]

Originally Posted by IrishLake

Fuck me, I would kill for a Panera shortbread cookie right now.

To me, crisp = crunch. There is no "crunch" in what Belle described. When talking about a good shortbread cookie, I would call it firm, or perhaps dense. But crisp or hard.... no. They might be cohesive enough so that there is that snap when you break it in half, but the texture is not crispy nor crunchy.

I'll grant that crisp may not be the best word for cookies that aren't hard or soft. As I said earlier, I'm open to alternatives. Like you said with shortbread, it's not hard, but it's not soft either or it wouldn't snap.

I can think of lots of crisp things that aren't crunchy though.

But store-bought shortbread? Pale imitations.

[knight_shadow]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

SPLASH SPLASH!!!!