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Old 11-12-2011, 01:06 AM
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It also sounded like the minors weren't completely victims in the situation either.
Minors are ALWAYS victims in this type of situation. ALWAYS.
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Old 11-12-2011, 01:26 AM
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From the sound of the article, it seems like this situation has happened in the area before, but I didn't hear about it. If that's true, then this is even more worrisome. It also sounded like the minors weren't completely victims in the situation either. It will be interesting to see how this plays out.

Um, no. They're minors! How can you read this very short article and decide based on one sentence that they weren't victims? I doubt you would say the same thing if the teacher was male and the minors female. Boys can be victims too. This is exactly why it's can be so hard for boys (and men, for that matter) to report abuse. It's completely unfair.

ETA: Looks like DrPhil posted the same point while I was typing.
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Old 11-12-2011, 01:32 AM
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Um, no. They're minors! How can you read this very short article and decide based on one sentence that they weren't victims? I doubt you would say the same thing if the teacher was male and the minors female. Boys can be victims too. This is exactly why it's can be so hard for boys (and men, for that matter) to report abuse. It's completely unfair.

ETA: Looks like DrPhil posted the same point while I was typing.
Add to that if the teacher was male and the minors male.

It is ridiculous that people believe boys and men cannot be the victims of sexual abuse (and domestic violence, that other thread).
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Old 11-12-2011, 06:24 AM
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Minors are ALWAYS victims in this type of situation. ALWAYS.
Yeah, what is up with that? The minors were victims, as all minors are victims when pursued by older people (who should know better!)

I've seen this line of thinking when people hear about cases with older teens (male and female) but really- a teacher? The teacher should know better, whereas the kids will be kids and fully not comprehend why it's a bad idea to be involved with an adult (because they think they are adults in their minds, but that doesn't make them mature enough to be dealing with a 40 something year old in a "peer" type relationship.)

We had two teachers in the city across the river within the past 2 years. One male, one female. The female worked on these young girls by telling them what they wanted to hear, but she was really trying to bait them into three-ways with her and her husband. That's really sick. I don't believe much came from either case- they can't teach anymore, but it pretty much amounts to a slap on the wrist- and THAT is not fair. If Joe Pervert is texting an underage kid sexual stuff, it will be dealt with much harsher than if it's a teacher, at least that's how it seemed to pan out with these cases. Teachers should, if anything, be held to a higher standard (like jail, not probation!)
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