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11-07-2011, 11:11 PM
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I think this sums up how us Penn State students/alumni are feeling - as written by a Penn State associate professor.
http://goodmenproject.com/featured-content/we-are/
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11-07-2011, 11:41 PM
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I can't thank you enough for posting this. Honestly, this is what I have been trying to explain to people about the situation. This situation has truly shown me who my real friends and "sisters" (from other schools) are. Just like I would never tell the Alums of Virginia Tech how to feel about what happened at their university, I would appreciate it if people who have no connection to PSU would stop telling me how I should feel. In general-don't tell people how they should feel about anything.
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11-07-2011, 11:58 PM
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I can't thank you enough for posting this. Honestly, this is what I have been trying to explain to people about the situation. This situation has truly shown me who my real friends and "sisters" (from other schools) are. Just like I would never tell the Alums of Virginia Tech how to feel about what happened at their university, I would appreciate it if people who have no connection to PSU would stop telling me how I should feel. In general-don't tell people how they should feel about anything.
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Whoa.
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11-08-2011, 12:06 AM
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Whoa.
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It's true. The way that they may feel they will always (unfairly) be associated with such a tragic event is the same way that PSU will always be associated with this. Just because people didn't lose their lives through death doesn't mean these victims (not the students or alums--the actual victims) didn't lose something close to their lives during the time they were victimized by this monster.
If you think that this event will not tarnish the school to the point they will lost funds, alumni support, and potential students--then you need to really look at this again. Many of us are disgusted by what happened and the fact that nothing was done for these victims sickens us.
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11-08-2011, 12:22 AM
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It's true. The way that they may feel they will always (unfairly) be associated with such a tragic event is the same way that PSU will always be associated with this. Just because people didn't lose their lives through death doesn't mean these victims (not the students or alums--the actual victims) didn't lose something close to their lives during the time they were victimized by this monster.
If you think that this event will not tarnish the school to the point they will lost funds, alumni support, and potential students--then you need to really look at this again. Many of us are disgusted by what happened and the fact that nothing was done for these victims sickens us.
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As a Virginia resident and wife of a very proud Hokie graduate, I can emphatically tell you NO. THERE IS NO COMPARISON. A trusted coach and authority figure did not shoot those students and professors. There is no shame in being part of the Virginia Tech nation.
There should be no shame in being part of the PSU nation, as it was one individual, but that seems not to be the case at this point for many.
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11-08-2011, 07:16 PM
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As a Virginia resident and wife of a very proud Hokie graduate, I can emphatically tell you NO. THERE IS NO COMPARISON. A trusted coach and authority figure did not shoot those students and professors. There is no shame in being part of the Virginia Tech nation.
There should be no shame in being part of the PSU nation, as it was one individual, but that seems not to be the case at this point for many.
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southbymidwest, I am sorry if I offended you. I did not mean to. What I was trying to say, which may have come off as insensitive (so I do apologize) was that people shouldn't tell other people how to feel. Virginia Tech is an incredible school and I can see why your husband should be VERY proud of his alma mater. I'm sorry if I upset you. I am just really disgusted with what is going on and I didn't know how to explain why people from other schools who didn't get what I was trying to say about being upset that they shouldn't tell me (or others) how to feel.
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11-08-2011, 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted by amIblue?
Where has anyone told anyone how to feel? The whole situation is tragic, and in a perfect world, it never would have happened. However, Penn State will go on.
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Originally Posted by als463
I would appreciate it if people who have no connection to PSU would stop telling me how I should feel. In general-don't tell people how they should feel about anything.
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11-08-2011, 02:25 PM
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You can put Ms. Alpha Frog (or is it AlphaFrog, no space? I forget) in that group next to Mr. MC.
The suffering that has been experienced by so many people as a result of one person's actions and acts is overwhelming. I offer prayers for healing, peace and compassion for everyone involved in this horrendous situation. I have learned through my own life experiences to step aside when it comes to judging; I leave that for others.
I have also learned that until you actually face a horrible situation, it is not truly possible to say what you would have done. Here in Tucson, last January, there were those who ran from the violence, and those who ran towards it, to help others. None have gone away unscathed. I dare say that all who have been involved in the events surrounding Coach Sandusky are also experiencing varying degrees of trauma, remorse, shame, and guilt.
I agree with DrPhil: this is not about sports. It's gone way beyond that. So many lives now in ruins.
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11-08-2011, 01:05 PM
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I can't thank you enough for posting this. Honestly, this is what I have been trying to explain to people about the situation. This situation has truly shown me who my real friends and "sisters" (from other schools) are. Just like I would never tell the Alums of Virginia Tech how to feel about what happened at their university, I would appreciate it if people who have no connection to PSU would stop telling me how I should feel. In general-don't tell people how they should feel about anything.
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What the eff?!
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11-08-2011, 01:17 PM
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While another victim steps forward, JoPa cancels the interview. Can't say that I blame him.
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11-08-2011, 01:28 PM
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While another victim steps forward, JoPa cancels the interview. Can't say that I blame him.
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Another victim stepped forward? I tried to Google that, but the only news updates I could find were related to cancellation of the press conference.
The NY Times is reporting that plans are being made for Paterno to bow out in the very near future:
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/09/sp...t.html?_r=1&hp
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11-08-2011, 01:43 PM
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The latest victim is an adult now. He never told anyone, ever, which will make it harder to prove.
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11-08-2011, 01:58 PM
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I just saw this. So sad.
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11-08-2011, 02:33 PM
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I just saw this. So sad.
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I don't think Paterno's imminent resignation is sad at all. I think the ongoing rape of children, with Paterno among others looking the other way, is sad as hell.
It's especially not sad with all that he did to make Penn State appear to be this shining example of how college football is supposed to be, when he knewSandusky had a predilection for raping little boys. I'd rather hear about PSU football players taking gifts of cars from boosters and grade fabrication rather than this.
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