What do your bids look like?

[knight_shadow]

Originally Posted by jazing

Oh, I never got a bid card is what I am trying to get at.

"If and not when" refers to how a pledge should not get overzealous about being in the fraternity. Giving a bid card can cause such feelings.

A bid doesn't guarantee initiation, though.

[jazing]

Originally Posted by knight_shadow

A bid doesn't guarantee initiation, though.

Hence why that attitude is discouraged.

[knight_shadow]

Originally Posted by jazing

Hence why that attitude is discouraged.

This really makes no sense at all.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by knight_shadow

A bid doesn't guarantee initiation, though.

That is what jazing is saying.

Even with a bid it is still "if and not when (as though it is a definite)." That is why jazing says the attitude of "I have a bid card and therefore will definitely be initiated" is discouraged.

It makes sense because you are both saying the same thing.