I Am Not a Costume!

[Psi U MC Vito]

And most African Americans cultures are not thug life. My point is that the guido subculture is a subset of white culture. And I actually know Italians who have dressed as guidos for Halloween.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by Psi U MC Vito

And most African Americans cultures are not thug life.

Really?

NonBlacks need to let the Black folks deal with that. If Black folks want to mock aspects of Black culture, that is completely on us.

Originally Posted by Psi U MC Vito

My point is that the guido subculture is a subset of white culture. And I actually know Italians who have dressed as guidos for Halloween.

Italians have every right to dress up as guidos.

Italian Americans have assimilated into whiteness so it's up to the white diaspora to fight over who can do what regarding the different white ethnicities. As a nonItalian and nonwhite person, I have no interest in policing that.

[AlphaFrog]

So, DrPhil, since in your opinion it's ok for Italian Americans to dress up as guidos, is it also in your opinion ok for blacks to dress up as thugs?

And if it's not ok for non-Blacks to discuss what Blacks dress up as, how come you get to (yes, I went there ) speak for Italian Americans?

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by AlphaFrog

...is it also in your opinion ok for Blacks to dress up as thugs?

ETA: I never said that Italian Americans dressing up as guidos is "okay." I said that it is up to Italian Americans, not nonItalians, to battle that amongst eachother.

As for the Blacks and thugs thing, if it is not okay, Black folks will be the ones to battle over that because it is a different topic than whether nonBlacks should dress up as "Black thugs."

Originally Posted by AlphaFrog

And if it's not ok for non-Blacks to discuss what Blacks dress up as, how come you get to (yes, I went there ) speak for Italian Americans?

You must be in the wrong thread. I never said that nonBlacks cannot discuss what Blacks dress up as. Discuss all you want to with the understanding that the opinions of nonBlacks will not be the determinant.

This topic is about nonBlacks dressing up as Blacks or some caricature of Blacks, to which I responded that nonBlacks need to leave the dressing up as Blacks to the Black folks. I said the same for nonItalian Americans not dressing up as Italian Americans or caricatures of Italian Americans. If Italian Americans want to dress up as guidos it is completely up to Italian Americans.