U of Charleston Suspends TKE

[33girl]

As I said to DrPhil, there may be an instance where an organization (mine, yours, NPC or NIC) will support a 4 member chapter. There are various reasons for this. So no, I will not definitively say that my org would shut down a 4 member chapter, solely for having 4 members.

Lots of strange dealings happen and to say "this will NEVER occur" is just plain folly.

This chapter in the original post, from what I can see, was not shut down for having 6 members. It was shut down for hazing.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by 33girl

This chapter in the original post, from what I can see, was not shut down for having 6 members. It was shut down for hazing.

That's what I thought and the fact that chapter size was brought up (and by a non-TKE if I remember correctly?) is why I asked whether there is a chapter size minimum for TKE.

There are Delta collegiate chapters with 6 and fewer active members; and chapters for other NPHC GLOs with 6 and fewer active members. Whether that works and "is appropriate" is up to the NPHC GLO and school.

[Kevin]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

That's what I thought and the fact that chapter size was brought up (and by a non-TKE if I remember correctly?) is why I asked whether there is a chapter size minimum for TKE.

There are Delta collegiate chapters with 6 and fewer active members; and chapters for other NPHC GLOs with 6 and fewer active members. Whether that works and "is appropriate" is up to the NPHC GLO and school.

For NIC-type groups, there is a fixed cost for operating a chapter because national consultants have to be flown in annually or bi-annually, so there needs to be a minimum amount of membership to make that cost-effective for the general fraternity to be able to continue that as a service.

Also, just to be competitive for membership, single-digits won't cut it. In most, maybe all cases where a fraternity is that far down in the tiers, the best thing to do is to shut down and start over with a clean slate.

[naraht]

Originally Posted by Kevin

For NIC-type groups, there is a fixed cost for operating a chapter because national consultants have to be flown in annually or bi-annually, so there needs to be a minimum amount of membership to make that cost-effective for the general fraternity to be able to continue that as a service.

Also, just to be competitive for membership, single-digits won't cut it. In most, maybe all cases where a fraternity is that far down in the tiers, the best thing to do is to shut down and start over with a clean slate.

For flying in consultants, it might make a difference whether there was another chapter of the fraternity within the city.I went to college at Carnegie-Mellon in Pittsburgh, it has Sigma Alpha Epsilon and so does University of Pittsburgh and Duquesne University. All of these schools are *considerably* closer to each other than either is to the Pittsburgh airport.

[Kevin]

Originally Posted by naraht

For flying in consultants, it might make a difference whether there was another chapter of the fraternity within the city.I went to college at Carnegie-Mellon in Pittsburgh, it has Sigma Alpha Epsilon and so does University of Pittsburgh and Duquesne University. All of these schools are *considerably* closer to each other than either is to the Pittsburgh airport.

Out here in flyover country it's a bit different than in Pittsburgh. Things are a lot more spread out.

[naraht]

Originally Posted by Kevin

Out here in flyover country it's a bit different than in Pittsburgh. Things are a lot more spread out.

Not doubting that. What you said was much more true in flyover country. There is a difference between a 3 hour drive to the nearest other chapter vs. a 15 minute walk. I know one of the Fraternities at Carnegie-Mellon, the pledge class meeting that focused on being part of the National Fraternity was always held jointly with the pledge class of the chapter at Pitt.

[33girl]

Originally Posted by Kevin

For NIC-type groups, there is a fixed cost for operating a chapter because national consultants have to be flown in annually or bi-annually

Again, this is NOT the case for all national organizations. Some women posters on here have said they never saw a national consultant in all their years as an active.

[Kevin]

Originally Posted by 33girl

Again, this is NOT the case for all national organizations. Some women posters on here have said they never saw a national consultant in all their years as an active.

Who said otherwise? If your point is that NPC and NIC are different, then yeah... water's wet, the sky is blue, etc. etc.