under total, negative stereotypes, not sure what to do?

[southernbelle14]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

I have a visual of your campus and, in addition to being a bunch of "high schoolers who happen to attend college," your campus probably lacks true diversity. It reminds me of my college days when the majority of the campus population used to form these informal rules and labels that tended to exclude those who "look/live a certain way."

The rest of us responded to that by not giving a damn and forming our own social groups which included NPHC GLOs. That is one way in which GLOs (through a supportive Student Activities and/or Greek Life Office) can find their own population to cater to regardless of what the idiots across campus are saying are doing.

Yes, college in general happens to be a bunch of high schoolers who attend college. Graduating and moving into a dorm does not make you suddenly way more mature.
It seems that most of you on this site are older. You are probably lying to yourself about how you were in college. I guarantee you were at least somewhat judgmental and immature. It's part of life. We all go through it and most grow out of it. However, you all sit behind a computer screen and often pass judgement on the people on this site, whether you actually know the whole story or not. So I'd say that's not much better.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by southernbelle14

It seems that most of you on this site are older. You are probably lying to yourself about how you were in college.

We are older but don't waste time trying to assume things about us. This is not about us saying we were mature saints in college. You are getting ruffled and trying to defend the stupidity at your college.

Originally Posted by southernbelle14

I guarantee you were at least somewhat judgmental and immature. It's part of life. We all go through it and most grow out of it.

This discussion is not just about being judgmental and immature. It is about this specific type of immaturity that would not have flown at my college. If you read my post, you would grasp that.

Originally Posted by southernbelle14

However, you all sit behind a computer screen and often pass judgement on the people on this site, whether you actually know the whole story or not. So I'd say that's not much better.

LOL. Are your feelings hurt? Keep the information to yourself next time.

[MysticCat]

Originally Posted by southernbelle14

I guarantee you were at least somewhat judgmental and immature. It's part of life. We all go through it and most grow out of it.

Most do grow out of it. Seems from your posts, though, that you're content be one of the ones who doesn't grow out of it.

[melindawarren]

Originally Posted by southernbelle14

Yes, college in general happens to be a bunch of high schoolers who attend college. Graduating and moving into a dorm does not make you suddenly way more mature.
It seems that most of you on this site are older. You are probably lying to yourself about how you were in college. I guarantee you were at least somewhat judgmental and immature. It's part of life. We all go through it and most grow out of it. However, you all sit behind a computer screen and often pass judgement on the people on this site, whether you actually know the whole story or not. So I'd say that's not much better.

Whoa whoa WHOA. Hold up a second. College freshman writing here, and I have to take offense at this. I'm not lying to myself when I say that I'm neither judgmental nor immature. And honestly, that's a really sucky excuse for bad behavior. "I'm a college student, so it's ok for me to be judgmental and immature." No. Absolutely not. Be part of the solution; don't contribute to the problem. If you acknowledge that many college students have these bad traits, work to eliminate them from yourself. Don't turn a low-set bar into a reason to just go with the flow. Be the person who raises the bar.

I also have to say that it's not judgmental to call your view on sizes closed-minded. I am 5'4 and a size 0/2/4 (depending on whether we're talking formalwear or everyday wear). The idea that one has to be a 2 or a 4 to be "normal" is actually more of an unhealthy view than the idea that one is chubby at a 6 or 8. And to generalize with sizes is slightly absurd, considering one person can have three or four different sizes.

Finally, it's unfortunate that moving into a dorm doesn't make a person more mature. It's a shame that the experience of taking care of oneself and his or her own day-to-day life isn't enough to help people see diversity in all forms.

That's all I have to say.

[AOII Angel]

Originally Posted by melindawarren

Whoa whoa WHOA. Hold up a second. College freshman writing here, and I have to take offense at this. I'm not lying to myself when I say that I'm neither judgmental nor immature. And honestly, that's a really sucky excuse for bad behavior. "I'm a college student, so it's ok for me to be judgmental and immature." No. Absolutely not. Be part of the solution; don't contribute to the problem. If you acknowledge that many college students have these bad traits, work to eliminate them from yourself. Don't turn a low-set bar into a reason to just go with the flow. Be the person who raises the bar.

I also have to say that it's not judgmental to call your view on sizes closed-minded. I am 5'4 and a size 0/2/4 (depending on whether we're talking formalwear or everyday wear). The idea that one has to be a 2 or a 4 to be "normal" is actually more of an unhealthy view than the idea that one is chubby at a 6 or 8. And to generalize with sizes is slightly absurd, considering one person can have three or four different sizes.

Finally, it's unfortunate that moving into a dorm doesn't make a person more mature. It's a shame that the experience of taking care of oneself and his or her own day-to-day life isn't enough to help people see diversity in all forms.

That's all I have to say.

So true. Body shaming women has been going on for a long time. It is especially problematic for taller women or women without the typical caucasian body type who don't know what their ideal body weight size should be and instead go by what they hear from their "normal" counterparts. Hating your own body because it cannot conform to the standards of someone half your size is ridiculous. I know because I grew up with a 5'4" mother who had no idea that I was a normal weight at 5'8" and was freaked out when I hit 140 in middle school. Ignorance is not an excuse. Clothing size means very little, especially as it can vary from line to line.

[Mevara]

Originally Posted by AOII Angel

So true. Body shaming women has been going on for a long time. It is especially problematic for taller women or women without the typical caucasian body type who don't know what their ideal body weight size should be and instead go by what they hear from their "normal" counterparts. Hating your own body because it cannot conform to the standards of someone half your size is ridiculous. I know because I grew up with a 5'4" mother who had no idea that I was a normal weight at 5'8" and was freaked out when I hit 140 in middle school. Ignorance is not an excuse. Clothing size means very little, especially as it can vary from line to line.

I believe you can't even go on ideal body weight or BMI sometimes. If you are more athletic you will weigh more than your non-athletic counterpart. I know when I work out more I tend to weigh closer to 125 which is high for my height (5"1'). With all this effort I will still be a size 6 and my body fat is below 20% (Which I know most people who weigh less are not). If I am chubby at a size 6 and less than 20% fat that is ridiculous!!

[AOII Angel]

Originally Posted by Mevara

I believe you can't even go on ideal body weight or BMI sometimes. If you are more athletic you will weigh more than your non-athletic counterpart. I know when I work out more I tend to weigh closer to 125 which is high for my height (5"1'). With all this effort I will still be a size 6 and my body fat is below 20% (Which I know most people who weigh less are not). If I am chubby at a size 6 and less than 20% fat that is ridiculous!!

There are different body types, but BMI is a fairly good measure for the majority of people. There are very few people who are not obese when their BMI is high. If you are an athlete with a high BMI, it is okay...these numbers aren't meant to be hard rules.