The Confederate Flag

[PiKA2001]

Originally Posted by *winter*

I can understand the whole Southern Pride thing...to a point. I'm proud that I'm a German-American, but I also understand flying a Nazi flag probably wouldn't be the best way to go about expressing this pride. I just think that the Confederate flag is something that offends or bothers so many people (black and white), so find another emblem.

I myself have never had any strong opinions about this topic but comparing the Nazi Flag to the Confederate flag is just out there. Germany has a beautiful flag...fly that to show your ethnic pride. Only a neo-nazi skinhead would fly the swastika.

I know I'm wired differently than most of you here, but I'd rather see people sporting their nazi, gang, bpp, racist, anti-government, greek, etc, para than try to hide who they really are. It's all about the situational awareness. I had a couple move into the apt above mine recently and the guy has a symbol on his truck that is commonly used by a local gang. Doesn't bother me because now I know to watch my back around this guy. I understand how people can be offended if they see an offensive (to them) symbol everytime they look out their window but if some guy has confederate flag or gang symbol on his bumper....who cares? The guy just did you a favor by broadcasting to you that he's trouble.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by PiKA2001

Only a neo-nazi skinhead would fly the swastika.

For clarity's sake:

This form of the swastika



Not this form of the swastika




/turning into MysticCat

Originally Posted by PiKA2001

I know I'm wired differently than most of you here, but I'd rather see people sporting their nazi, gang, bpp, racist, anti-government, greek, etc, para than try to hide who they really are. It's all about the situational awareness. I had a couple move into the apt above mine recently and the guy has a symbol on his truck that is commonly used by a local gang. Doesn't bother me because now I know to watch my back around this guy. I understand how people can be offended if they see an offensive (to them) symbol everytime they look out their window but if some guy has confederate flag or gang symbol on his bumper....who cares? The guy just did you a favor by broadcasting to you that he's trouble.

You do not know how we are wired.

Someone who sports the Confederate Flag is not automatically "trouble." Such labeling of people is problematic because it is above and beyond the labeling of the items themselves. It is different than a gang symbol and a Nazi symbol.

And only an idiot would sport a gang symbol on his bumper, if that's true. The police better be watching him.

[PiKA2001]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

For clarity's sake:

This form of the swastika



Not this form of the swastika




/turning into MysticCat

Thanks for clarifying but given the context of the conversation if someone couldn't differentiate the type of swastika I was referring to they should probably log off

Someone who sports the Confederate Flag is not automatically "trouble." Such labeling of people is problematic because it is above and beyond the labeling of the items themselves. It is different than a gang symbol and a Nazi symbol.

I was speaking very generally there. Like I said, I don't have a dog in this fight. I don't see the Confederate flag as something of pride nor oppression... I'm quite indifferent to the topic. I personally don't think that they are trouble, nor do I hold the Confederate flag in the same regard as Nazi or gang symbolism. Some on the other hand (as evident from some of the replies to this thread) do though.

And only an idiot would sport a gang symbol on his bumper, if that's true. The police better be watching him.

It's quite true. It's how they identify themselves fellow gang members or to rival gang members that a certain car's load or occupants is being protected. It's not the "typical" gang signs that are displayed but rather more innocuous symbols such as





And yes, law enforcement is aware of that these symbols are being used.

[VandalSquirrel]

Originally Posted by PiKA2001

Thanks for clarifying but given the context of the conversation if someone couldn't differentiate the type of swastika I was referring to they should probably log off



I was speaking very generally there. Like I said, I don't have a dog in this fight. I don't see the Confederate flag as something of pride nor oppression... I'm quite indifferent to the topic. I personally don't think that they are trouble, nor do I hold the Confederate flag in the same regard as Nazi or gang symbolism. Some on the other hand (as evident from some of the replies to this thread) do though.



It's quite true. It's how they identify themselves fellow gang members or to rival gang members that a certain car's load or occupants is being protected. It's not the "typical" gang signs that are displayed but rather more innocuous symbols such as





And yes, law enforcement is aware of that these symbols are being used.

Srsly, those have all ended up manipulated on unfortunate Rush t-shirts.




This is how I like to see the "Confederate Flag" with Bo, Luke, and Daisy Duke, oh and maybe Flash the hound dog. I'm in hot pursuit! Not that hot mess with Jessica Simpson, ewwww.

Forreal though, my eldest sister had some Tiger Beat pictures of John Schneider. I remember when she got married and moved out we found some of Ponch from CHiPS, but she was far more into Larry Wilcox.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by PiKA2001

Thanks for clarifying but given the context of the conversation if someone couldn't differentiate the type of swastika I was referring to they should probably log off

Yet a lot of people would be offended if they saw the other swastika on a (particularly white) person's flag (although I do not think they resemble). A lot of people would need someone to explain what it is and still some people would think it is too similar to display. That happens a lot with symbols that resemble each other. You can preach the "it's not the same thing" until you're blue in the face and get tired of explaining it to people.

[KillarneyRose]

The John Deere logo is used as a gang symbol??? What's next?


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