University of Illinois/Urbana-Champaign Recruitment

[lovespink88]

Woo hoo!

Also heard about a few of my brother's friends/neighborhood kids. 1 ADPi, 1 Pi Phi, 1 DZ and 1 Alpha Gam!

[AOII Angel]

Originally Posted by lovespink88

Woo hoo!

Also heard about a few of my brother's friends/neighborhood kids. 1 ADPi, 1 Pi Phi, 1 DZ and 1 Alpha Gam!

Looks like you left your chapter in good hands. Beautiful new class!

[DeltaBetaBaby]

Originally Posted by lovespink88

Woo hoo!

Also heard about a few of my brother's friends/neighborhood kids. 1 ADPi, 1 Pi Phi, 1 DZ and 1 Alpha Gam!

Is that the house that Phi Sig was in? I recognize it, but I can't quite place it.

[irishpipes]

Originally Posted by DeltaBetaBaby

Is that the house that Phi Sig was in? I recognize it, but I can't quite place it.

Not the Phi Sig house. I can't place it either, but it wasn't theirs.

[DeltaBetaBaby]

Originally Posted by irishpipes

Not the Phi Sig house. I can't place it either, but it wasn't theirs.

The pic is from the frat park side, not the street side, I think...maybe Phi Sigma Kappa?

[lovespink88]

Originally Posted by DeltaBetaBaby

The pic is from the frat park side, not the street side, I think...maybe Phi Sigma Kappa?

Ding ding ding!

ETA: Fiji is currently renting the Phi Sigma Sigma house.

[pearlalum]

Heard through the grapevine on the girls from our high school - 2 Alpha Phis and 1 Kappa Alpha Theta. Not sure on the 4th one.

[DG Illinois]

Originally Posted by AGDAlum

You sound like competition for the Carnation Nation!

I wish! Unfortunately that is going back to my Mom's time at U of I in 1960 and then all my sisters. Naturally my sisters had more boys than girls, so tops we will be lucky if we have another 6 rushes left and 2 of them will be mine. But thanks for naming me in such good company !

[DG Illinois]

Originally Posted by lovespink88

Woo hoo!

Also heard about a few of my brother's friends/neighborhood kids. 1 ADPi, 1 Pi Phi, 1 DZ and 1 Alpha Gam!

Thanks for posting I love seeing all their smiling faces! Beautiful house, beautiful girls...they are going to love the next 4 years! Congrats!

[DG Illinois]

My other girls went

1-Theta
1-KD
1-Tri Delt
1-Gamma Phi

They are all thrilled and loving their houses!

[Football Fan]

DG Illinois,
Thanks for your recruitment stories. Do you have any quota or new member class numbers? It appears all the groups did well.

[DG Illinois]

Snap bid update -
I don't even know how this happened but the snap bid I told you about yesterday gets even crazier.

That particular house extended 14 snap bids to girls who went to their 3rd party but was cut before pref night to make quota.
It's not that much of a secret anymore because a lot of people are talking about it and I guess some of the houses are saying RFM is not fair because they are forced to cut so drastically that this one house was 14 under quota.

There were a few others, but this was the big one

[DeltaBetaBaby]

Originally Posted by DG Illinois

Snap bid update -
I don't even know how this happened but the snap bid I told you about yesterday gets even crazier.

That particular house extended 14 snap bids to girls who went to their 3rd party but was cut before pref night to make quota.
It's not that much of a secret anymore because a lot of people are talking about it and I guess some of the houses are saying RFM is not fair because they are forced to cut so drastically that this one house was 14 under quota.

There were a few others, but this was the big one

Do you know what quota was?

I can think of many reasons this would happen. The first, and most obvious, is that they had a weaker year of recruitment than years past. Combined with that, they may have mis-read the interest of a lot of women, and/or not turned in flex lists as recommended.

Another possibility is that they were competing primarily with one or two other houses, and those houses rushed dirty.

Yet a third possibility is that the RFM specialists did not accurately predict the impact of losing a chapter. While this seems less likely to me, given that this chapter was rarely in competition with Phi Mu, there could have been issues nonetheless.

Also, the fact that there were 14 women even AVAILABLE for snap bids seems a bit strange. That means there was an awful lot of suiciding going on. Alternatively, there may have been a lot of drop-outs prior to pref.

In any case, I understand why they'd be upset, but it certainly doesn't mean that RFM is a bad thing.

[FSUZeta]

Combined with that, they may have mis-read the interest of a lot of women, and/or not turned in flex lists as recommended.

Another possibility is that they were competing primarily with one or two other houses.

my money's on these two possibilities. Is RFM fairly new to this campus?

[DubaiSis]

I think they might be cutting a little too aggressively, especially in the early rounds of rush. I really like the inherent fairness in cutting girls you don't intend to pledge right from the get-go, but there are a LOT of girls who are maybes who could be given another chance. I don't know how many that means need to attend prefs, but maybe a few more? If they allowed every chapter to invite 10 more girls to each round of parties, how much impact would it make? Maybe not a lot or maybe it would be really hard on the smallest chapter, but at Illinois, I don't think there currently IS a smallest chapter. Haven't they pretty much achieved parity now? Alpha Xi, the former new kid on the block is perfectly solid, and I don't think any chapters are in jeopardy.

Of course, I'm not there and the numbers in print can look a lot different with girls crying on bid day.

I'm just glad this chapter that went afoul of RFM was able to recoup without any huge issues. Did it happen to any others?

And no, RFM isn't new to Illinois. I'm wondering if the RFM gurus out there are thinking there's a magic and exact number to shoot for and they're just pressing too hard. Maybe this year they found where the break point is. I really wish I could see RFM in action from the back room!