Penn State has record turn-out for recruitment

[LionTamer]

Senusret I - with 19 sororities, no one will be cut by every group. Lots and lots of girls will, however, be cut from every group they like.

Kappamd - Just spent Sunday with a PSU friend who was a Kappa in the 80s. Were you a Delta Alpha?

[Senusret I]

Originally Posted by LionTamer

Senusret I - with 19 sororities, no one will be cut by every group. Lots and lots of girls will, however, be cut from every group they like.

Are you a betting woman? I got ten dollars toward your favorite philanthropy that SOMEBODY will go bidless after maximizing their options! Somebody's gremlin lookin', non-legacy, foul breath-having, ill-tempered daughter is gonna be sad, sad, sad on bid day!

[als463]

You know I love this post! Thanks LionTamer for sharing!

[KSUViolet06]

Originally Posted by Senusret I

Are you a betting woman? I got ten dollars toward your favorite philanthropy that SOMEBODY will go bidless after maximizing their options! Somebody's gremlin lookin', non-legacy, foul breath-having, ill-tempered daughter is gonna be sad, sad, sad on bid day!

LOL. You are so crazy.

Is this how NPHC peeps pass their time during NPC recruitment season? lol.

*starts collecting bets for Ole Miss*

lol.

[LionTamer]

This ain't Ole Miss, Rashid, my friend. This is Uggs-wearing, Paterno-lovin', baseball-cap sportin', "my parents' summer home is in Wildwood" PSU.

This is the Northeast, where legacies don't predominate, you don't go to a studio to get a photo taken, sororities don't memorize the PNM's faces before rush, most sororities do not require recs, and nobody knows from Lilly.

I am indeed a betting woman, but there's no way of determining if anyone who cut NO sororities was also cut from every sorority, so there would be no way for me to prove you were wrong so you could deliver not $10, but my payoff of preference: tickets to the opening game of the World Series, which will be held in Philadelphia (now there's something we actually could bet on)

Seriously, though: The problem is that everyone (dream girls and gremlins alike) drops the same "bottom tier" sororities after the first rounds - exactly the groups who might have provided them a happy home in Happy Valley. So there probably are women who "maximize their chances" in the most formal sense of the phrase, but they still screw up their own chances early on by dropping the groups most likely to want them.

[violetpretty]

Originally Posted by LionTamer

Seriously, though: The problem is that everyone (dream girls and gremlins alike) drops the same "bottom tier" sororities after the first rounds - exactly the groups who might have provided them a happy home in Happy Valley. So there probably are women who "maximize their chances" in the most formal sense of the phrase, but they still screw up their own chances early on by dropping the groups most likely to want them.

Is PSU not using RFM?

[KSUViolet06]

Originally Posted by violetpretty

Is PSU not using RFM?

I am pretty sure they do.

That's probs why all the women drop out, as the RFM = heavy cuts early by the groups that have to make the most cuts.

I find that those groups that PNMs find most desirable (and are so "omg I HAVE to get invited back there or I'm quitting" about) have to cut the MOST women out of all the chapters.

PNMs get dropped by those "heavy cut maker" groups and refuse to consider other groups. Hence, the large number of dropouts.

I don't think it would hurt for PNMs to get just a LITTLE education on how RFM works just so that they don't unrealistically expect Top Group Who Makes Big Cuts to invite them back, or are at least braced for the cuts.

Then again, it probs wouldn't help because even if you TOLD a PNM about that, they would likely assume that they were going to be in that percentage of PNMs that Top Group DOESN'T cut and ignore you (like "yeah ok, XYZ probably has to cut heavy because they're the biggest but I'm awesome enough for an invite so this doesn't apply to me")

I find that many PNMs, even if they KNEW that certain groups cut heavy, would assume that they were going to be the exception to the heavy cuts because they were more awesome than everyone else. They overestimate their own awesomeness, if that makes sense.

Wow, that was a ramble and super off topic.

[*winter*]

Originally Posted by LionTamer

This ain't Ole Miss, Rashid, my friend. This is Uggs-wearing, Paterno-lovin', baseball-cap sportin', "my parents' summer home is in Wildwood" PSU.

This is the Northeast, where legacies don't predominate, you don't go to a studio to get a photo taken, sororities don't memorize the PNM's faces before rush, most sororities do not require recs, and nobody knows from Lilly.

Oh yes indeed!

It's HORRIBLE here, weather-wise, on my side of PA. Stay dry PNMs and good luck!

ETA: I didn't read the entire thread before posting. Funny that 2 others quoted the same section!

[groovypq]

Originally Posted by LionTamer

I am indeed a betting woman, but there's no way of determining if anyone who cut NO sororities was also cut from every sorority, so there would be no way for me to prove you were wrong so you could deliver not $10, but my payoff of preference: tickets to the opening game of the World Series, which will be held in Philadelphia (now there's something we actually could bet on)

Word.

[AnchorAlum]

Originally Posted by LionTamer

This ain't Ole Miss, Rashid, my friend. This is Uggs-wearing, Paterno-lovin', baseball-cap sportin', "my parents' summer home is in Wildwood" PSU.

This is the Northeast, where legacies don't predominate, you don't go to a studio to get a photo taken, sororities don't memorize the PNM's faces before rush, most sororities do not require recs, and nobody knows from Lilly.

I am indeed a betting woman, but there's no way of determining if anyone who cut NO sororities was also cut from every sorority, so there would be no way for me to prove you were wrong so you could deliver not $10, but my payoff of preference: tickets to the opening game of the World Series, which will be held in Philadelphia (now there's something we actually could bet on)

Seriously, though: The problem is that everyone (dream girls and gremlins alike) drops the same "bottom tier" sororities after the first rounds - exactly the groups who might have provided them a happy home in Happy Valley. So there probably are women who "maximize their chances" in the most formal sense of the phrase, but they still screw up their own chances early on by dropping the groups most likely to want them.

ROTFLOL.

You know, we've heard that about you.

I'm thinking that some of Alabama's loveliest turned quite a few heads up there yesterday. And girl, ain't none of 'em was wearin' uggs.

"We're here for your menfolks". LOL!

To the subject at hand, I hope that the young women who want to be part of the experience all find a landing place. Good Luck and please let us know how rush turns out!

[dgdramadawg]

Originally Posted by Senusret I

Are you a betting woman? I got ten dollars toward your favorite philanthropy that SOMEBODY will go bidless after maximizing their options! Somebody's gremlin lookin', non-legacy, foul breath-having, ill-tempered daughter is gonna be sad, sad, sad on bid day!

Um. I love you.

[33girl]

I'm sure that there have been some people who, umm, stood out so spectacularly (and not in a good way) that they were cut by every chapter.

[violetpretty]

Originally Posted by KSUViolet06

That's probs why all the women drop out, as the RFM = heavy cuts early by the groups that have to make the most cuts.

Right, it's just that LionTamer's comment here threw me off and made it sound like popular chapters are not making those early, big, cuts (ie PSU is not using RFM), otherwise most PNMs would have to go back to the same bottom tier sororities. Otherwise, I would have thought she would say "PNMs drop out when they don't get their faves".

Originally Posted by LionTamer

Seriously, though: The problem is that everyone (dream girls and gremlins alike) drops the same "bottom tier" sororities after the first rounds - exactly the groups who might have provided them a happy home in Happy Valley. So there probably are women who "maximize their chances" in the most formal sense of the phrase, but they still screw up their own chances early on by dropping the groups most likely to want them.

[bluepink]

This is the Northeast, where legacies don't predominate, you don't go to a studio to get a photo taken, sororities don't memorize the PNM's faces before rush, most sororities do not require recs, and nobody knows from Lilly.

cracked me up. My daughter didn't really even know Lilly existed until she joined her sorority at UF. LOL

[ASTalumna06]

Originally Posted by LionTamer

This ain't Ole Miss, Rashid, my friend. This is Uggs-wearing, Paterno-lovin', baseball-cap sportin', "my parents' summer home is in Wildwood" PSU.

This is the Northeast, where legacies don't predominate, you don't go to a studio to get a photo taken, sororities don't memorize the PNM's faces before rush, most sororities do not require recs, and nobody knows from Lilly.

All the reasons why I love the north and PSU (except for that Uggs-wearing thing..)

Originally Posted by bluepink

cracked me up. My daughter didn't really even know Lilly existed until she joined her sorority at UF. LOL

I didn't know about Lilly until I came on this site.. 3 years ago, after I had graduated. lol