My (live) Recruitment Story!

[33girl]

I would put Otter in your bottom two, and here's why.

1) The other two you're thinking about putting there, you actually seemed to really like. It appears that the only reason you're thinking about putting them there is because of things you might have heard, rumors, or preconceptions. I know that you don't want to divulge what the nature of the hazing investigation entailed, but please know that "hazing" covers everything from relatively benign (the sorority had an extra fun event that wasn't in the national pledge program) to really bad (severe physical hazing). Unless the newspaper said exactly what the charges were, I wouldn't automatically assume the worst.

2) Even if you get along GREAT with your roomies, it doesn't mean you'll get along with the rest of their sisters. You actually might be helping your roommates out if you rank their chapter in your bottom two, because they might be painfully aware of this and not know how to tell you.

Go with your gut, not the rumor mill or your roommates' affiliation.

[shirley1929]

Originally Posted by 33girl

I would put Otter in your bottom two, and here's why.

1) The other two you're thinking about putting there, you actually seemed to really like. It appears that the only reason you're thinking about putting them there is because of things you might have heard, rumors, or preconceptions. I know that you don't want to divulge what the nature of the hazing investigation entailed, but please know that "hazing" covers everything from relatively benign (the sorority had an extra fun event that wasn't in the national pledge program) to really bad (severe physical hazing). Unless the newspaper said exactly what the charges were, I wouldn't automatically assume the worst.

Respectfully disagree with this part. If it's really being "seriously investigated" as she notes, its probably something more than just having an "extra fun event". I know some schools post online the groups that are being investigated or on probation and why. If she's found concrete evidence of a hazing incident, I would not encourage her to walk into that situation. It almost sounds like you're telling her "oh don't worry about a little hazing if you like the girls, I'm sure you'll be fine". I know that's not your point, but I feel like you're treading into a potentially dangerous area.

Originally Posted by 33girl

2) Even if you get along GREAT with your roomies, it doesn't mean you'll get along with the rest of their sisters. You actually might be helping your roommates out if you rank their chapter in your bottom two, because they might be painfully aware of this and not know how to tell you.

Go with your gut, not the rumor mill or your roommates' affiliation.

^^Agree with this.

[33girl]

Originally Posted by shirley1929

Respectfully disagree with this part. If it's really being "seriously investigated" as she notes, its probably something more than just having an "extra fun event". I know some schools post online the groups that are being investigated or on probation and why. If she's found concrete evidence of a hazing incident, I would not encourage her to walk into that situation. It almost sounds like you're telling her "oh don't worry about a little hazing if you like the girls, I'm sure you'll be fine". I know that's not your point, but I feel like you're treading into a potentially dangerous area.

She said this was in "recent years." What she considers recent, I don't know. If it was 5 years ago, all the girls that did it are gone. Even if it was 2 years ago, the girls responsible may have all been kicked out and the chapter as a whole completely rehabilitated.

Also, being investigated is far from the same thing as being found guilty. It also takes a lot less to tip the scale towards an investigation at some chapters than it does at others. (Sorry to be so cynical, but it's the truth.)

Of course, it's impossible to know this without her outing where she is. I was just pointing out that a school newspaper (and that's another factor, we know how anti-Greek some of them are) article saying that a group was investigated (not necessarily disciplined or found guilty) for "hazing" without getting into the particulars may not be as horrible as it sounds and not a valid reason to drop a chapter you really like. As we were mentioning in this thread, if it was something really horribly bad, she probably would have heard about it before rush.

[shirley1929]

Originally Posted by 33girl

She said this was in "recent years." What she considers recent, I don't know. If it was 5 years ago, all the girls that did it are gone. Even if it was 2 years ago, the girls responsible may have all been kicked out and the chapter as a whole completely rehabilitated.

Also, being investigated is far from the same thing as being found guilty. It also takes a lot less to tip the scale towards an investigation at some chapters than it does at others. (Sorry to be so cynical, but it's the truth.)

Of course, it's impossible to know this without her outing where she is. I was just pointing out that a school newspaper (and that's another factor, we know how anti-Greek some of them are) article saying that a group was investigated (not necessarily disciplined or found guilty) for "hazing" without getting into the particulars may not be as horrible as it sounds and not a valid reason to drop a chapter you really like. As we were mentioning in this thread, if it was something really horribly bad, she probably would have heard about it before rush.

Fair enough. I think I just needed you to clarify further. It can be serious business, and I didn't want the OP or others to think that it's not.