Teaxs A&M to leave Big 12

[shirley1929]

And the hits keep on coming to the Big 12...

http://espn.go.com/college-sports/st...le-conferences

[PeppyGPhiB]

Originally Posted by shirley1929

And the hits keep on coming to the Big 12...

http://espn.go.com/college-sports/st...le-conferences

I think it's becoming clearer that OU, OSU, Texas and TT are all going to join the Pac-12...I mean, Pac 16. On the one hand, I hate it, because they're not really at all like the other Pac-12 schools; but on the other hand, they'd probably be put into the same division with Arizona, ASU, Colorado and Utah, which means the west coast teams would be reunited again in our happy left coast universe.

[AXOmom]

Well its not really me that dislikes them so much - more my kids. I'm sure the school is fine - it had to do with a state football playoff a few years back and a couple of state gymnastics meets in a row.

Congrats to Bellevue though - way to put it to the Californians. Always good to remind them they don't own the Pacific Coast (as they sometimes seem to think).

Personally, I DO NOT want Texas (as is probably clear from my previous posts). Actually I really don't want Oklahoma either because they have whiny fans - but I can live with them. Nonetheless, I can see it going that way. I'm sure it would be depressing for Colorado - who thought they shook all these teams.

[PeppyGPhiB]

Originally Posted by AXOmom

Well its not really me that dislikes them so much - more my kids. I'm sure the school is fine - it had to do with a state football playoff a few years back and a couple of state gymnastics meets in a row.

Congrats to Bellevue though - way to put it to the Californians. Always good to remind them they don't own the Pacific Coast (as they sometimes seem to think).

Personally, I DO NOT want Texas (as is probably clear from my previous posts). Actually I really don't want Oklahoma either because they have whiny fans - but I can live with them. Nonetheless, I can see it going that way. I'm sure it would be depressing for Colorado - who thought they shook all these teams.

No one really wants Texas or OU in the Pac-12. And we REALLY don't want TT or OSU, but we realize the redheaded stepchildren have to come along. If Texas does come over, they will have to agree to equal revenue sharing, and they will probably be forced to ditch the Longhorn Network due to the Pac-12's big TV broadcast deal. Texas would have several equals in the Pac-12 and would not be permitted to run the show the way they do in the Big 12.

[AXOmom]

Originally Posted by PeppyGPhiB

No one really wants Texas or OU in the Pac-12. And we REALLY don't want TT or OSU, but we realize the redheaded stepchildren have to come along. If Texas does come over, they will have to agree to equal revenue sharing, and they will probably be forced to ditch the Longhorn Network due to the Pac-12's big TV broadcast deal. Texas would have several equals in the Pac-12 and would not be permitted to run the show the way they do in the Big 12.

Yeah, USC isn't going to let Texas call the shots here without a fight and as I mentioned earlier in this thread - so far at least, I think we've done a little better than the Big XII about trying to keep things as fair as possible (nothing's perfect and that could all change of course). It MIGHT almost be worth it to watch Texas have to operate in a system where they can't run the show....it will certainly be a culture shock for them in more ways than one.


As far as having several equals in the conference - I don't think Texas will ever think they have any equals. That would be against their religion or something.

Objectively, whether or not they have several equals probably depends on the definition of equals - academics, national recognition, football history, revenue, tv viewership, etc?

I wouldn't be too quick to discount OSU (although having two OSU's could get confusing). Granted, I think in terms of bringing in tv revenue you're right - they don't bring much to the table, but they have a good football program and they also have a major booster who donates a TON of money to that school, so they have great facitilities. Not that this does the rest of us any good, and I can't say I'd want to go to an away game there.

[shirley1929]

Originally Posted by PeppyGPhiB

I think it's becoming clearer that OU, OSU, Texas and TT are all going to join the Pac-12...I mean, Pac 16. On the one hand, I hate it, because they're not really at all like the other Pac-12 schools; but on the other hand, they'd probably be put into the same division with Arizona, ASU, Colorado and Utah, which means the west coast teams would be reunited again in our happy left coast universe.

And I wish those four would just go to the SEC with TX A&M (although I think it would never happen!) because they're more like those schools. However, if the alternative is a PAC-16 with them joining AZ, ASU, Colo & Utah, then so be it.