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Old 09-02-2011, 12:23 AM
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K_S, just sit back and think about the environment for young girls where they are expected to be "bad at math" and you through in the extra pressure of pretending not to be smart so that you will be pretty. These are real issues facing girls that effect their lifetime career options. It is absolutely offensive to have a shirt marketed to girls that reinforces the dumbing down of our girls.
Well, this isn't about proving the offense to everyone and justifying the response to the perceived offense (power minority groups tend to do that).

Not everyone has to find it offensive or worth speaking out. That is not to be confused with having no concept of the potential larger implications of such things and acting as though those who do find offense and/or spoke out are just bored during a slow work week. Bitches need hobbies!
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Old 09-02-2011, 12:56 AM
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Well, this isn't about proving the offense to everyone and justifying the response to the perceived offense (power minority groups tend to do that).

Not everyone has to find it offensive or worth speaking out. That is not to be confused with having no concept of the potential larger implications of such things and acting as though those who do find offense and/or spoke out are just bored during a slow work week. Bitches need hobbies!
I understand what you are saying, and I don't think he understands why we would be offended. Apparently some things are offensive enough to protest in his estimation...just not this piddling issue. The issue is more than meets the eye. Then again, aren't most. He's free to have his opinion, but I seriously don't get why he'd argue so vociferously against the opposite. Thus my post.
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Old 09-02-2011, 12:56 AM
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I agree, but I also think that many people tend to ignore the effects of sexism as if giving women the right to vote suddenly made everything equal. (yes, I realize you could put in any minority group, but since women aren't really a minority, they just aren't in power, they get ignored.)
That's why women are a minority group. Minority status is more about power dynamics than about population size.

Minority groups tend to try to convince and justify things to people who disagree or may be unaware, including members of the minority group.
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Old 09-02-2011, 02:18 AM
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That's why women are a minority group. Minority status is more about power dynamics than about population size.

Minority groups tend to try to convince and justify things to people who disagree or may be unaware, including members of the minority group.
You caught me! You are correct ma'am.
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Old 09-02-2011, 08:12 AM
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You caught me! You are correct ma'am.
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I understand what you are saying, and I don't think he understands why we would be offended. Apparently some things are offensive enough to protest in his estimation...just not this piddling issue. The issue is more than meets the eye. Then again, aren't most. He's free to have his opinion, but I seriously don't get why he'd argue so vociferously against the opposite. Thus my post.
Knight_shadow began with an issue over how anyone could protest anything in such a context. If you don't like something then don't YOU do it but leave it for someone else to like it. Then knight_shadow veered off into having an issue with the line that people draw. In other words, it's now okay to protest such things but THIS doesn't cross the line and is unworthy of protest. LOL. That's why what we eat doesn't make everyone else defecate and these dynamics persist regardless of how we personally feel about them (or regardless of whether we notice them at all).
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