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Originally Posted by 33girl
If he REALLY thinks that's what this is about, he's an idiot who shouldn't be allowed to drive a car let alone hold an elected office.
If he's just jumping on the situation to try and politicize it, he's a complete asshole.
Not sure which is worse.
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Originally Posted by agzg
"Gun safety courses?" What is this? I can't even.
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That's just one facet of the victim blaming. There has been a lot of University blaming but the University was able to share what transpired with Katy as FERPA ceased to exist once she was murdered. However the law is still protecting his employment record but the University President was urging University Counsel to have that legally lifted and for an independent investigation into actions taken to protect her. This is not just for her family to have answers about the last few months of her life, but to shut up people who are saying UI did nothing for her.
The whole gun thing is moot as she was shot off campus at her private residence, but also stems from previous attempts by a law student (surprise surpise
) who moved into campus family housing, and there is a lot of affordable housing in town so it isn't like he had no other option, and then decided his 2nd Amendment rights were being violated. Campus/state law states no firearms can be on campus, including student housing, and must be kept at the weapon lock up run through the Moscow PD. Lots of things aren't allowed in campus housing that one could do off campus, so perhaps he should have read his contract before signing it and chosen to live elsewhere. This all went down in the past calendar and academic year, and is easy to find if you google, his last name is Tribble, like from Star Trek.
Now I've had training for multiple fire arms, needed one for work, shot skeet for fun, earned a badge in Girl Scouts while in single digits for my marksmanship, and feel comfortable and safe being around and using weapons. I frankly don't think any of that training, especially if I wasn't actively carrying (as Katy wasn't) is going to help me survive what was reported. She was sitting on the front step of her house smoking a cigarette, about an hour after sunset, and a lot of our streets have beautiful trees and no street lights. He rolled up in a black rental car so it probably wasn't recognizable to her, it was reported he was dressed in a long dark coat, hat, so not only did he have the element of surprise, but he had a .45 handgun and shot her 11 times in the throat and chest. If any of these victim blamers who believe fire arm education is the answer think they could survive that, even if they had a weapon, they are delusional. He had a total of six fire arms, let me list them from the article because it is unbelievable:
-- Smith and Wesson M&P .45-caliber handgun, is believed to be the weapon used to murder Benoit.
-- Smith and Wesson .44-caliber revolver, believed to be the weapon used by Bustamante to commit suicide.
-- Springfield Armory .45-caliber handgun.
-- Ruger LCP .380-caliber handgun.
-- Glock 9mm caliber handgun.
-- Taurus Judge .45 caliber / .410 gauge handgun.
The people who witnessed what happened and were able to give details to the police, as well as her roommates who came out to find her, could have easily been his victims as well with the amount of fire power he had. Even if someone had a handgun it could have turned even worse once the police arrived. The gun that was mentioned as the weapon they believed he used on her hold 10 rounds plus one, so he had to have been close enough since every single shot hit her. I don't think they can understand how ignorant their statements are, who could survive that situation, training or no training, weapon or no weapon? It was released today she met with UI people earlier last Monday who informed her his last day had been Friday and it has been reported he was leaving town for a new job in New Jersey. It takes some real nerve to blame her and have guns as the hindsight savior when this could have been the first time in months she felt like she could sit on her front porch and have a cigarette. I've only read and seen men making these comments, and they probably are only familiar with stalking as something done to deer and not living a life that is possibly filled with terror, fear, shame, stress, confusion, depression, and all of the other things that victims of stalking, harassment, and domestic violence feel.
Mad props to the University of Idaho Argonaut for being the most professional media outlet to handle this. I've found them to be disappointing in the past, to the point of using a few copies for incidents of litter box problems and essentially it was worth more to me as something to protect my house from cat feces and urine. They were covering it Monday night with facebook, tweeting, and have been the most professional and respectful. They are so on it they got a copy of the affidavit
http://www.uiargonaut.com/sections/n..._affidavit.pdf and put it on the website.
http://www.idahostatesman.com/2011/0...k=omni_popular
http://www.idahostatesman.com/2011/0...s-details.html
http://www.idahostatesman.com/2011/0...questions.html
http://www.idahostatesman.com/2011/0...-the-mark.html
http://www.idahostatesman.com/2011/0...ranscript.html There is also audio of the call on many sites, someone was playing it and had their sound on, what I heard was chilling.
http://www.idahostatesman.com/2011/0...on-murder.html
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