10 worst celebrity tippers

[MysticCat]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

I take all of these stories with a grain of salt. Maybe they are accurate. Maybe they are not.

This. Articles like these are really just a way for people to feel superior to "celebrities."

Originally Posted by ASUADPi

I hope these celebrities get bombarded with negative press, but chances are that won't happen.

You mean more than the negative press to which you linked, and to which that article referred?

Originally Posted by twinkle555

This makes me SICK. I tip 20-30% . . .

Just curious -- why do you tip up to 30%? I mean, that's great if you want to do that, but that's quite above the standard, and I hardly think someone should be criticized for leaving a standard tip.

Originally Posted by DrPhil

don't and I never will. They should consider themselves lucky that I chose not to tip rather than speaking to a manager.

I leave something, but it's a token something so that the terrible server can't just say "well, he forgot." And I speak to the manager.

Personally, I wish Americans would just do away with the tipping system -- I'd much rather restaurants just increase the price of the meal to cover it or include a service charge -- but it'll never happen.

[33girl]

Cary Grant gave his entire salary from The Philadelphia Story ($150,000 in 1940 dollars - probably around $15,000,000 today) to the Red Cross. Yeah, real douchecanoe.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by MysticCat

I leave something, but it's a token something so that the terrible server can't just say "well, he forgot." And I speak to the manager.

It's clear that I didn't forget because I put a line through the tip area or I tell the server.

You also speak to the manager so the tip you left is balanced out. LOL.

Originally Posted by 33girl

Cary Grant gave his entire salary from The Philadelphia Story ($150,000 in 1940 dollars - probably around $15,000,000 today) to the Red Cross. Yeah, real douchecanoe.

Tipping is the be-all and end-all of life. Our life contributions and accomplishments all boil down to whether we tip and how much. Cary Grant is NOTHINGNESS. NOTHINGNESS, I SAY.

[twinkle555]

Originally Posted by MysticCat

This. Articles like these are really just a way for people to feel superior to "celebrities."

You mean more than the negative press to which you linked, and to which that article referred?

Just curious -- why do you tip up to 30%? I mean, that's great if you want to do that, but that's quite above the standard, and I hardly think someone should be criticized for leaving a standard tip.

I leave something, but it's a token something so that the terrible server can't just say "well, he forgot." And I speak to the manager.

Personally, I wish Americans would just do away with the tipping system -- I'd much rather restaurants just increase the price of the meal to cover it or include a service charge -- but it'll never happen.

OH no I dont criticize people that leave 18% at all! I have a problem with people leaving less than that for great service lol. My minimum is ALWAYS 20%. If they REALLLLLLLYY suck, then 18%..but thats rare. The 30% tip is reserved for people I know personally, servers or bartenders that really bust their ass for me if me or my friends are being picky or demanding, servers or bartenders that have "hooked you up" (giving you a couple beers free or not charging you for a soda, something like that), and usually during happy hour..if your check is $15, but due to 241 drinks should have been more like $30, then I tip on the original amount (the $30.. in which case Ill leave $8-9 or so).

I worked as a server and bartender all through college and it is hard work. Right now am bartending a few days a week for extra cash for my wedding in November. Trust me, I come across some really cheap people who just dont get that I only get paid $4.25 an hour and rely on their tips. I could go on and on about this subject so Ill shut it for now lol.

[BluPhire]

Originally Posted by twinkle555

OH no I dont criticize people that leave 18% at all! I have a problem with people leaving less than that for great service lol. My minimum is ALWAYS 20%. If they REALLLLLLLYY suck, then 18%..but thats rare. The 30% tip is reserved for people I know personally, servers or bartenders that really bust their ass for me if me or my friends are being picky or demanding, servers or bartenders that have "hooked you up" (giving you a couple beers free or not charging you for a soda, something like that), and usually during happy hour..if your check is $15, but due to 241 drinks should have been more like $30, then I tip on the original amount (the $30.. in which case Ill leave $8-9 or so).

I worked as a server and bartender all through college and it is hard work. Right now am bartending a few days a week for extra cash for my wedding in November. Trust me, I come across some really cheap people who just dont get that I only get paid $4.25 an hour and rely on their tips. I could go on and on about this subject so Ill shut it for now lol.

Most people who work in restaurants tip big.

For the rest of us, 15% is fair market for average service, no tip for bad service and a great tip depends on the service.

$1 for a $10 meal, what does the person expect $5, $10???

she may not have had 50 cents.

[twinkle555]

Originally Posted by BluPhire

Most people who work in restaurants tip big.

For the rest of us, 15% is fair market for average service, no tip for bad service and a great tip depends on the service.

$1 for a $10 meal, what does the person expect $5, $10???

she may not have had 50 cents.

I dont understand why people think 15% is still the "minimum" now-a-days. Prices on everything have gone up, minimum wage has gone up,so why is the old-fashioned 15% minimum still standard? In any restaurant you'll notice the automatic grat is minimum 18%....but I digress.

PS..$1 on $10 is 10%..thats pretty low for someone who had to go to the kitchen 4-5 times and has to share there tips with the bartender, hostess and busboy..just sayin''..even rounding up to the next buck helps a ton (unless they sucked at service, in which case my argument is irrelevant.)

[AlphaFrog]

Originally Posted by twinkle555

I dont understand why people think 15% is still the "minimum" now-a-days.Prices on everything have gone up, minimum wage has gone up,so why is the old-fashioned 15% minimum still standard? In any restaurant you'll notice the automatic grat is minimum 18%....but I digress.

Here is what loses this argument. If the meal costs more "nowadays" than 15% is automatically going to be a higher dollar amount. Logic fail.

An interesting thing is happening as well with the advent of Groupon/LivingSocial. I went to a restaurant and used one, and they added an automatic 18% to the bill before the coupon. Apparently, they'd had problems with people using a $30 coupon on a $40 check and then tipping based on the $10 left to pay. The server did give me advanced notice of this policy, and I was perfectly fine with it. Too bad people are jerks and they had to have the policy in the first place.


I loved waitressing, and will probably end up doing it again in NYC to supplement the acting income after I'm done with school.

[BluPhire]

Originally Posted by AlphaFrog

Here is what loses this argument. If the meal costs more "nowadays" than 15% is automatically going to be a higher dollar amount. Logic fail.

Exactly, they are getting paid a percentage, not a flat dollar amount. Therefore if food prices go up, guess what your tip goes up.

And I stand by 15% minimum.

Like I said, the people most passionate about this are the ones that work it.

I don't believe in being cheap, but I also don't believe in being bullied to satisfy your personal view of what should and should not be.

[MysticCat]

Originally Posted by twinkle555

I dont understand why people think 15% is still the "minimum" now-a-days. Prices on everything have gone up, minimum wage has gone up,so why is the old-fashioned 15% minimum still standard? In any restaurant you'll notice the automatic grat is minimum 18%....but I digress.

First, as AlphaFrog pointed out, since 15% is a percentage, it's going to increase as the prices go up.

Second, maybe restaurants do sometimes put an automatic gratuity (an oxymoron if ever there was one) at 18%. (But not always -- I've seen restauarants set the automatic gratuity at 15%). That doesn't change the standard.

Which brings me to: Third, I wouldn't say 15% is the "miminum." I would say that, per most sources in this country (like the one Dr. Phil posted), 15% is the standard for average service. There's a difference between a standard and a minimum. That chart actually lists the minimum as 10% (for poor service).

Sidenote: I am a little amused that the chart Dr. Phil posted says it should be 15% of the bill "excluding tax." We have a co-worker who tips on a pre-tax basis and we all deride him for his stinginess. Now I have a moral quandry over whether to admit that he may be "correct" after all.

[KSig RC]

Originally Posted by twinkle555

I dont understand why people think 15% is still the "minimum" now-a-days. Prices on everything have gone up, minimum wage has gone up,so why is the old-fashioned 15% minimum still standard? In any restaurant you'll notice the automatic grat is minimum 18%....but I digress.

The entire reason for it being 15% is because it "scales" with the food price, which increases when things like "cost of living" and "price of commodities" (which directly influence the price of meal) go up.

There is literally no reason to move up the percentage - it already takes into account the things you're worrying about, by its very nature.

Minimum grat is intended to push people away from large groups, which take up disproportionate time compared with smaller tables. You've actually disproven your own point there - the 18% is intended to be punitive, not indicative.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by twinkle555

OH no I dont criticize people that leave 18% at all! I have a problem with people leaving less than that for great service lol. My minimum is ALWAYS 20%. If they REALLLLLLLYY suck, then 18%..but thats rare. The 30% tip is reserved for people I know personally, servers or bartenders that really bust their ass for me if me or my friends are being picky or demanding, servers or bartenders that have "hooked you up" (giving you a couple beers free or not charging you for a soda, something like that), and usually during happy hour..if your check is $15, but due to 241 drinks should have been more like $30, then I tip on the original amount (the $30.. in which case Ill leave $8-9 or so).

Your generosity should never be confused with a standard.

I leave 15% unless the person did something more awesome than the average server. I have high expectations in life and expect great things so someone has to be greater than great to be above average. Or I have to be feeling superdupergenerous which occasionally happens especially after a couple of glasses of red wine. I hope there is still a place for me in Heaven.

I don't think this has expired:
http://money.cnn.com/pf/features/lists/tipping/

[MysticCat]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

Your generosity should never be confused with a standard.

I leave 15% unless the person did something more awesome than the average server

This. I might round it up if it makes the math easier/rounds out the dollar.

And LOL on drawing a line where you'd write the tip. I'm so old I still automatically think of leaving cash in the table, but you're exactly right.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by MysticCat

This. I might round it up if it makes the math easier/rounds out the dollar.

Oh yes, I also do that.

I will also round down if need be. LOL.

Originally Posted by MysticCat

And LOL on drawing a line where you'd write the tip. I'm so old I still automatically think of leaving cash in the table, but you're exactly right.

I'm horrible at carrying cash. I'm getting better.

When I am carrying cash, I still leave a line where the tip would be and either leave the cash tip on the table, give it to the server (preferred method), or give it to the front desk. Whatever lets the server know that she/he has a tip...or doesn't have a tip.

[preciousjeni]

Originally Posted by MysticCat

Personally, I wish Americans would just do away with the tipping system -- I'd much rather restaurants just increase the price of the meal to cover it or include a service charge -- but it'll never happen.

Hear, hear. I'm a 15% tipper, unless service is superior. I'm not a regular anywhere, because I don't eat out very much.