Etiquette!

[dekeguy]

Originally Posted by AOII Angel

And you would be incorrect since these manners are very much still in effect by men and women throughout Louisiana. No parody is involved. I lived in three corners of the state, was raised in Baton Rouge, married a man that was raised in Monroe and can honestly say that this is the straight forward, honest way of speaking. You may not have this experience but to suggest that it is NOT the norm anywhere is ridiculous as if you have been everywhere.

I believe I said "New Orleans and other tradition minded Southern localities" Is not Monroe a tradition minded Southern Locality? Are not parts of Baton Rouge tradition minded? I really didn't want to be pedantic but I was referring to several areas such as much of Louisiana, the Delta country, Mobile and other parts of Alabama, Savannah, Charleston, Richmond and other obvious and not so obvious places.
I did not say anything about EVERYWHERE. I said "localities with which I have had direct experience". That, I submit, is not ridiculous. It is based on direct and personal observation.

[AOII Angel]

Originally Posted by dekeguy

I believe I said "New Orleans and other tradition minded Southern localities" Is not Monroe a tradition minded Southern Locality? Are not parts of Baton Rouge tradition minded? I really didn't want to be pedantic but I was referring to several areas such as much of Louisiana, the Delta country, Mobile and other parts of Alabama, Savannah, Charleston, Richmond and other obvious and not so obvious places.
I did not say anything about EVERYWHERE. I said "localities with which I have had direct experience". That, I submit, is not ridiculous. It is based on direct and personal observation.

You said that I was wrong and that people did NOT address each other past the age of 10 in such ways. I told you that people, in fact, do speak this way. If you meant something else, you should have been more clear. These are the "rules" you are referring to are they not?

May I suggest that two gentlemen unknown to each other are always Mr. Surname. If they are well known to each other they are John and Peter without the Mr. prefix.
A neice or nephew will address the older relative as Uncle John.
A gentleman never addresses anyone as Mr. John.
Mr. John is a form of address, dieing out (in the US but not so much in the UK) for the last twenty years or so, used only by family servants to younger males or in some cases by an old family servant to a grown man who was addressed in that manner by that servant when the man was a boy.
This was a charming custom which is now hopelessly obsolete and actually inappropriate unless the person using the "Mr. John" form of address is more comfortable with it than the "Mr. Smith" form.

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Any male past the age of ten or eleven would not address an adult male not related to him as Mr. John - ever. If related or (rarely) if a family friend of many years standing and great closeness one might use the honorific 'Uncle John' or 'Aunt Alice'. Girls might use the honorific Uncle or Aunt a bit longer but that also is rapidly dieing out except in really die hard families or groups.

I think that completely is the opposite of what I was saying. Try to read a little more critically. BTW, it's dying. Maybe that's the British spelling, but I doubt it.