Amy Winehouse dead at 27

[honeychile]

The tragedy of Amy Winehouse's death is that she had such talent, she had a support group of people who were willing to help her keep clean, and she couldn't find her way out of the drug of the week club. This whole "27 Club" only glamorizes the whole junkie ordeal, IMHO. And I've dealt with too many junkies to see anything remotely glamorous about it.

I wish her family a world of peace.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by honeychile

This whole "27 Club" only glamorizes the whole junkie ordeal, IMHO. And I've dealt with too many junkies to see anything remotely glamorous about it.

I don't think the "27 Club" is being presented as glamorous or some musician rite of passage. There are similarities between the deaths of these people in that they 1) were musicians, 2) died at the age of 27, and 3) most of them had drugs or alcohol involved.

There is also a list of "27 Club" that includes people who are not documented as having drugs and alcohols involved.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/27_Club

If anything glamorizes being a junkie it is how the media and general public receive musicians who are alleged or known junkies. Many of these musicians don't hide their substance use/abuse (i.e., Amy Winehouse did concerts and appeared on camera when she was on drugs). Being a musician, in general, has been made synonymous with living a hard life and using substances for longer than any of us have been alive. As for today's musicians, I think I posted the link of the alleged junkie tendencies of artists like Bruno Mars and Lil Wayne.

[Munchkin03]

Originally Posted by honeychile

TThis whole "27 Club" only glamorizes the whole junkie ordeal, IMHO. And I've dealt with too many junkies to see anything remotely glamorous about it.

Who's glamorizing it? I haven't heard anyone glamorizing it, if anything it makes this whole thing a little more tragic. The first time I heard anything about this being a club was when Kurt Cobain died. His mother said, "I told him not to go join that stupid club."

[DrPhil]

At the same time, some are speculating:

http://music.msn.com/music/article.a...0721&GT1=28102

[AOII Angel]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

At the same time, some are speculating:

http://music.msn.com/music/article.a...0721&GT1=28102

Yet he gives no evidence to back up his ridiculous claim. Maybe if he had evidence that she commited suicide or made statements to the fact, but otherwise, he should just shut up.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by AOII Angel

Yet he gives no evidence to back up his ridiculous claim. Maybe if he had evidence that she commited suicide or made statements to the fact, but otherwise, he should just shut up.

I initially thought the same thing but I think he's clear that this is all speculation.

[AOII Angel]

I don't know, it sounds more like a plug for his brand of rehab. He seemed to be bashing the rehab programs that she sorta went through and posits that his approach would have been better. I'm not buying his article.

[honeychile]

Originally Posted by Munchkin03

Who's glamorizing it? I haven't heard anyone glamorizing it, if anything it makes this whole thing a little more tragic. The first time I heard anything about this being a club was when Kurt Cobain died. His mother said, "I told him not to go join that stupid club."

I wasn't sure of the origin. I have heard junkies reach 28 and bemoan that they're too old for the club, though.

FWIW, there used to be a hotel next to my (street level) office. So many junkies would accidentally stumble into our office, it wasn't even funny. Especially when they'd pass out, and when we called the paramedics, they were less than thrilled to even touch them. I learned a lot from that, and am SO glad that place sold.