Women should get free birth control, panel says

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by AGDee

Agreed. I was going to add that and couldn't figure out how to word it. Like, if he's popping $40 every time you go to the movies or out to dinner or.. $80 if you do both in one night, then he's contributing and feeding you!

LOL. That or more instrumental costs like groceries, house stuff, and even his own medical stuff that benefit the other partner.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by AlwaysSAI

Eh. I just thought that people, especially women, should be happy about the possibility of preventing babies for free. Not arguing about it. If my verbage, which is always off, makes me anti-feminist, so be it.

There are different ways to views these topics. There are plenty of people (including many women) who feel as Elephant Walk does and are much better at expressing it. There are also perspectives that differ from ours and Elephant Walk's.

[PiKA2001]

I agree with Ghostwriter about the "free" comment, but in a different way. As I understand the health care law, everyone who uses the system will have to pay to be part of it so women will be getting "free" birth control as part of the health care plan they have to buy. Right?

I didn't know there was such a vast array of birth control pills out there. The cynic in me says that it's probably going up to the government which birth control you get for "free". I can also see some people getting jealous and causing a stink that their blood pressure or diabetes medication isn't considered preventative.

[agzg]

Originally Posted by AlwaysSAI

I was wondering that. And, I'll stop there.

No, I see the word "roof" and think the roof of a house. I see the word "woof" and I think about a dog's bark.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by PiKA2001

I agree with Ghostwriter about the "free" comment, but in a different way.

Has Ghostwriter posted in this thread?

[AGDee]

Originally Posted by PiKA2001

I agree with Ghostwriter about the "free" comment, but in a different way. As I understand the health care law, everyone who uses the system will have to pay to be part of it so women will be getting "free" birth control as part of the health care plan they have to buy. Right?

I didn't know there was such a vast array of birth control pills out there. The cynic in me says that it's probably going up to the government which birth control you get for "free". I can also see some people getting jealous and causing a stink that their blood pressure or diabetes medication isn't considered preventative.

Yes, but a lot of women are paying for their health insurance now (or at least a significant portion of the premium) and still have to pay $50 a month for birth control.

Actually, your insurer and your employer have a lot of say in what you can get at a low cost now. Insurers have formularies and only cover what is on their formulary. That's no different. Blood pressure and diabetes medication is currently covered by most people's insurance policies whereas birth control is not. It is assumed those will continue to be covered. Your employer has to purchase an extra birth control rider for your insurance to pay any part of birth control prescriptions.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by agzg

No, I see the word "roof" and think the roof of a house. I see the word "woof" and I think about a dog's bark.

Is this a Vagina Monologue?

[agzg]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

Is this a Vagina Monologue?

You are teh one who is the vagina of the monologue!

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by agzg

You are teh one who is the vagina of the monologue!

Thank you!

[FHwku]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

that's messed up.

"our bagels are like vaginas: old and yeasty."

@ElephantWalk you shouldn't be against free birth control unless you're for having less sex.

[aggieAXO]

Originally Posted by angels&angles

This would be amazing. Without Insurance my seasonique pack (which is for three months) was running me $180! So the choices were pay through the butt, or risk having children (that I can't afford, nor do I want). Ugh. Thank god for Planned Parenthood that would give me free sample packs every three months, and for universal healthcare letting me get back on my parents insurance and buy me a few more years.

I am also on seasonique and despite paying almost 6000$ for insurance a year (boss pays- thank goodness!!) I have a 2500$ deductible for everything including prescriptions.

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by KSig RC

Yes, people disagreeing and discussing matters at a moderately high level really takes a dump on a thread, doesn't it?

Take off your moderator pants, put on a pot of tea, and chill out. EW is somewhat one-note, but a lot of times there's an interesting point to discuss underneath the Libertrolling.

Also, it's like the most anti-Feminist thing on Earth to say "this thread, of all threads" - seriously?

+1

Although his troll-fu sucks, I'd rather a more principled argument and less predictable bullshit. But then the clothes hanger sealed my perpetual fuck off for him.

[nittanygirl]

Originally Posted by AGDee

Have you discussed that with him? I would certainly hope that financial burden shouldn't fall only one partner, especially in a very long term relationship. Take turns every other month maybe?

I have always thought it should be free. As noted above, it's much more cost effective to cover birth control than to pay for a child for a lifetime!

Have before. He takes it as a personal attack for some reason.
I've even said I'm quitting taking it and if that's happening then nothing's happening
Of course I know things happen so I'd be too nervous to go off it.

Originally Posted by DrPhil

I believe that partners should share expenses but consider whether he pays expenses, that benefit the both of you, that you do not pay.

Originally Posted by AGDee

Agreed. I was going to add that and couldn't figure out how to word it. Like, if he's popping $40 every time you go to the movies or out to dinner or.. $80 if you do both in one night, then he's contributing and feeding you!

Well, we're not living in the same area right now anyways because I'm still finishing school, so I'm not a very expensive girlfriend really at this point.
Yes, he drives to see me (it's only a few hours and honestly isn't happening every week) & we usually go out to dinner (but I'm modest about choosing dinner options/price points -- I usually pick something that costs less than his unless it's like my birthday)

I don't know why he won't help pay for it though really. He's good about offering to pay for my dinner, or my movie when we actually do see each other (and sometimes I pay for us, out of respect that he drove all the way to see me, or whatever)

still. Sign me up on the petition for free birth control. At least for a certain age/income group or something. Like up to a certain age it's free & then beyond that age it takes into consideration income. Or something. It would solve a lot of unwanted pregnancies, abortions & stupid shows like Teen Mom.

/end rant

[rhoyaltempest]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

Jinx/

Tomorrow at 8:00am Elizabeth Hasselback will be on Good Morning America discussing how early is too early to put your daughter on birth control.

/Jinx

We have to be careful with this one. I think (due to many I know with such issues) and talking to some doctors, that being on birth control for years can cause infertility issues. One doctor I talked to suggested that we take long breaks without birth control pills from time to time. Just saying that free birth control is great but we all need to be educated.

And by the way, I've always thought birth control should be free. It's common sense to me.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by rhoyaltempest

We have to be careful with this one. I think (due to many I know with such issues) and talking to some doctors, that being on birth control for years can cause infertility issues. One doctor I talked to suggested that we take long breaks without birth control pills from time to time. Just saying that free birth control is great but we all need to be educated.

Even the possibility is something women should be informed about.

I know someone who was on birth control for 20 years. She took a break to give her body a rest and assumed (definitely not based on doctor's orders) that her body had stored enough birth control that she couldn't get pregnant.

And then BOOM...PREGNANT.