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07-20-2011, 04:47 PM
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I'm confused on how preventative health services wouldn't exist, without public money.
Currently, gobs and gobs of private money goes into preventative care. And it works, better than the governments inefficient system. Why not enhance the private sector over the public, so that citizens are able to choose what to do and not do with their money?
The fact that you think that you have the right to tell anyone what to do with their money is absolutely disgusting. If you believe in limiting that personal freedom, you probably also want to ban gay marriage...at least if you didn't want to be hypocritical.
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Since I actually work in the real health system, this whole post is laughable. The fact that you actually think that providing people with preventative health care limits personal freedom gives me a pretty good idea of the level of logic skills you exhibit. I will refrain from getting into a philosophical debate with you about libertarianism. It's all well and good if every person has the same resources and the same belief system, but it quickly becomes deadly when people don't.
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07-21-2011, 03:02 AM
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Since I actually work in the real health system, this whole post is laughable.
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Excellent lambasting of the post. You and DrPhil are pretty much in the same boat, mentally.
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The fact that you actually think that providing people with preventative health care limits personal freedom gives me a pretty good idea of the level of logic skills you exhibit.
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Woah, talk about leaps of logic! I never said that providing people with preventative health care limits personal freedom. That's silly.
However, taking money at the barrel of a gun (the IRS/government is the gun) to give to other people is limiting personal freedom.
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07-21-2011, 09:11 AM
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Excellent lambasting of the post. You and DrPhil are pretty much in the same boat, mentally.
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Oh yes, we definitely started with you and not the other way around.
Good luck with your hypotheticals.
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07-21-2011, 09:37 AM
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Wow...it must feel really horrible to be in American in EW's head. All this forced tyranny that has been going on for decades...how can he stand it?
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07-21-2011, 09:40 AM
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Wow...it must feel really horrible to be in American in EW's head. All this forced tyranny that has been going on for decades...how can he stand it?
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Hopefully he can't and will be escaping to a one-person island in the Pacific. Then he can talk shit with no risk of retort.
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07-21-2011, 09:41 AM
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Hopefully he can't and will be escaping to a one-person island in the Pacific. Then he can talk shit with no risk of retort.
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We can dream.
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07-21-2011, 12:43 PM
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Wow...it must feel really horrible to be in American in EW's head. All this forced tyranny that has been going on for decades...how can he stand it?
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It's the best of the possible countries. I'm not terribly happy to be American but its better in terms of liberty than most countries. That's not really saying much though. It's mostly an expanding corporatist state with ever growing inklings of fascism.
And forced tyranny is redundant.
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Overall, though, it's the bigness of the car that counts the most. Because when something bad happens in a really big car – accidentally speeding through the middle of a gang of unruly young people who have been taunting you in a drive-in restaurant, for instance – it happens very far away – way out at the end of your fenders. It's like a civil war in Africa; you know, it doesn't really concern you too much. - P.J. O'Rourke
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07-21-2011, 01:15 PM
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It's the best of the possible countries. I'm not terribly happy to be American but its better in terms of liberty than most countries. That's not really saying much though. It's mostly an expanding corporatist state with ever growing inklings of fascism.
And forced tyranny is redundant.
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Poor baby. The fascists are hunting you. Go run and hide.
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