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07-17-2011, 06:18 PM
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This could be an...interesting...thread.
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I know. This seems to be tempting fate.
That said . . . Duke.
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This!
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Add this to my list of negatives.
Anything named "(insert ANY religion, denomination, or religious leader) College/University" is a BIG NO.
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Really? No Catholic University? No Southern Methodist University? No Presbyterian College?
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07-17-2011, 06:42 PM
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University of Texas.
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07-17-2011, 06:43 PM
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For me, No. No. Heck no (I've never even heard of it!).
I'm a school snob, I guess. I think I've earned the right to be one.
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07-17-2011, 07:13 PM
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For me, No. No. Heck no (I've never even heard of it!).
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Really? You have never heard of SMU? If nothing else, it is mentioned regularly on these boards.
SMU is a strong academic school with very minimal association to the Methodist church. Like SMU, my own TCU (Texas Christian Univ) is not much more than name only. Freshmen year you are required to take one religion class, which can be either a Survey of the Bible or a World Religion course. There is not one aspect of any religion espoused by the faculty, administration, or any official aspect of the university.
Contrast that with Baylor, which does not have any religious word in its name, yet is crazy tied to the Southern Baptist in all aspects.
Anyway, it just seems like a broad brush to automatically eliminate schools with religion in the title. While some are quite tied to a demonations beliefs, others are more historically tied and now have VERY loose associations. And any employer who discounts a SMU or TCU student solely based on the demonation in the title is full of fail.
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07-17-2011, 10:13 PM
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SMU is a strong academic school with very minimal association to the Methodist church. Like SMU, my own TCU (Texas Christian Univ) is not much more than name only. Freshmen year you are required to take one religion class, which can be either a Survey of the Bible or a World Religion course. There is not one aspect of any religion espoused by the faculty, administration, or any official aspect of the university.
Contrast that with Baylor, which does not have any religious word in its name, yet is crazy tied to the Southern Baptist in all aspects.
Anyway, it just seems like a broad brush to automatically eliminate schools with religion in the title. While some are quite tied to a demonations beliefs, others are more historically tied and now have VERY loose associations. And any employer who discounts a SMU or TCU student solely based on the demonation in the title is full of fail.
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The...interesting...thread has begun.
LOL @ the bolded
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07-17-2011, 10:22 PM
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Really.
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07-17-2011, 10:43 PM
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To me, at least, it's way more than judging a book by its cover.
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I think it absolutely is if one is saying that just because a school has the name of a religion/denomination in its own name, the school must automatically be ruled out. That's what I was referring to and that makes no sense at all to me.
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I also know that, unless the world changes in the next 25 years or so, my kids will be judged as people of color and may not be given a fair shake for going to a less well-regarded school, even if it provides a "good experience." It sucks, but it's our reality.
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That does indeed suck, but thanks for the reminder/reality check/perspective.
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Really.
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Alrighty then.
(I guess Wesleyan is out, too.)
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07-17-2011, 10:51 PM
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Any school with a religion, denomination, or religious leader in the name is ruled out. I am talking about my dislike for particular names. I don't care about anything more in depth than that.
Just like I'm sure you said Duke for a particular reason regardless of anything positive I can say about Duke.
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07-17-2011, 11:13 PM
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Any school with a religion, denomination, or religious leader in the name is ruled out. I am talking about my dislike for particular names. I don't care about anything more in depth than that.
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Fair enough, especially for this Very Serious Thread.
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Just like I'm sure you said Duke for a particular reason regardless of anything positive I can say about Duke.
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LOL . . . like anything positive can possibly be said about Duke.
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Reason: Dr. Lola Phil knows why.
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07-17-2011, 11:24 PM
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Fair enough, especially for this Very Serious Thread.
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sidebar/
And in case people don't know, there are plenty of people (including employers) who judge schools based on what others consider trivial and/or incorrect. There are employers who will hire someone who went to the school of their favorite team; and wouldn't hire someone who went to the rival school. Thus is the world of preferences, networking, and blahzey blah.
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LOL . . . like anything positive can possibly be said about Duke.
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http://today.duke.edu/2011/06/humanities
I already know you're irresistible and I shall give in! Give in!  What's this thread about again?
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07-18-2011, 06:52 PM
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LOL . . . like anything positive can possibly be said about Duke. 
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That's for sure. If it was MY choice, my very hypothetical daughter wouldn't even step foot to visit dUKe, UNC, Louisville, LSU or Florida. Same goes for a "Bob Jones' type place. But, as a mom who watched a son choose Ohio State (and is blissfully happy there) and another son choose a school 9+ hours away from home, I would want her to choose the place that *she* calls home and is excited and content to attend.
Unless it would be a "Bob Jones" type place, where she'd have to fund every last cent of her education. Seriously.
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07-18-2011, 06:58 PM
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That's for sure. If it was MY choice, my very hypothetical daughter wouldn't even step foot to visit dUKe, UNC, Louisville, LSU or Florida. Same goes for a "Bob Jones' type place. But, as a mom who watched a son choose Ohio State (and is blissfully happy there) and another son choose a school 9+ hours away from home, I would want her to choose the place that *she* calls home and is excited and content to attend.
Unless it would be a "Bob Jones" type place, where she'd have to fund every last cent of her education. Seriously.
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LOL at LSU...we haven't bothered you in basketball in a century! Geaux Tigers! Since I don't have a daughter, I couldn't care less.  I just want my nieces to be AO-cutie-IIs!
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07-18-2011, 06:53 AM
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LOL @ the bolded
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Haha! Hilarious typo on my part. Will teach me that typing and the second glass of wine do not mix.
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Originally Posted by MysticCat
I think it absolutely is if one is saying that just because a school has the name of a religion/denomination in its own name, the school must automatically be ruled out. That's what I was referring to and that makes no sense at all to me.
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This is where I am too, and have been interested to read others opinions.
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