Flip side: Over my dead body my daughter would go to...

[SWTXBelle]

University of Texas.

Proof God has a sense of humor - I married a man with two degrees from UT!

[Munchkin03]

Originally Posted by MysticCat

Really? No Catholic University? No Southern Methodist University? No Presbyterian College?

For me, No. No. Heck no (I've never even heard of it!).

I'm a school snob, I guess. I think I've earned the right to be one.

[ComradesTrue]

Originally Posted by MysticCat

Really? No Catholic University? No Southern Methodist University? No Presbyterian College?

Originally Posted by Munchkin03

For me, No. No. Heck no (I've never even heard of it!).

Really? You have never heard of SMU? If nothing else, it is mentioned regularly on these boards.

SMU is a strong academic school with very minimal association to the Methodist church. Like SMU, my own TCU (Texas Christian Univ) is not much more than name only. Freshmen year you are required to take one religion class, which can be either a Survey of the Bible or a World Religion course. There is not one aspect of any religion espoused by the faculty, administration, or any official aspect of the university.

Contrast that with Baylor, which does not have any religious word in its name, yet is crazy tied to the Southern Baptist in all aspects.

Anyway, it just seems like a broad brush to automatically eliminate schools with religion in the title. While some are quite tied to a demonations beliefs, others are more historically tied and now have VERY loose associations. And any employer who discounts a SMU or TCU student solely based on the demonation in the title is full of fail.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by Blondie93

SMU is a strong academic school with very minimal association to the Methodist church. Like SMU, my own TCU (Texas Christian Univ) is not much more than name only. Freshmen year you are required to take one religion class, which can be either a Survey of the Bible or a World Religion course. There is not one aspect of any religion espoused by the faculty, administration, or any official aspect of the university.

Contrast that with Baylor, which does not have any religious word in its name, yet is crazy tied to the Southern Baptist in all aspects.

Anyway, it just seems like a broad brush to automatically eliminate schools with religion in the title. While some are quite tied to a demonations beliefs, others are more historically tied and now have VERY loose associations. And any employer who discounts a SMU or TCU student solely based on the demonation in the title is full of fail.

The...interesting...thread has begun.

LOL @ the bolded

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by MysticCat

Really? No Catholic University? No Southern Methodist University? No Presbyterian College?

Really.

[MysticCat]

Originally Posted by Munchkin03

To me, at least, it's way more than judging a book by its cover.

I think it absolutely is if one is saying that just because a school has the name of a religion/denomination in its own name, the school must automatically be ruled out. That's what I was referring to and that makes no sense at all to me.

I also know that, unless the world changes in the next 25 years or so, my kids will be judged as people of color and may not be given a fair shake for going to a less well-regarded school, even if it provides a "good experience." It sucks, but it's our reality.

That does indeed suck, but thanks for the reminder/reality check/perspective.

Originally Posted by DrPhil

Really.

Alrighty then.

(I guess Wesleyan is out, too.)

[DrPhil]

Any school with a religion, denomination, or religious leader in the name is ruled out. I am talking about my dislike for particular names. I don't care about anything more in depth than that.

Just like I'm sure you said Duke for a particular reason regardless of anything positive I can say about Duke.

[ComradesTrue]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

LOL @ the bolded

Haha! Hilarious typo on my part. Will teach me that typing and the second glass of wine do not mix.

Originally Posted by MysticCat

I think it absolutely is if one is saying that just because a school has the name of a religion/denomination in its own name, the school must automatically be ruled out. That's what I was referring to and that makes no sense at all to me.

This is where I am too, and have been interested to read others opinions.

[ASUADPi]

I quite honestly don't care where my future children go to college as long as they go to college. My biggest thing though is that unless they get scholarships, I don't know if I could afford out of state schools (as much as I would love to).

They definitely have to go to an accredited university. While I may be going to a for profit school right now for my graduate work, as a working professional I think that is okay, I don't want my undergraduate 18 year old to do this. I want them to enjoy college like I did.

If my kid wants to go to an Ivy that is fine, I just don't think they are all they are cracked up to be.

[AnotherKD]

Penn State and Michigan. Well, they could go, but I'd cry.

Also, I'd have to veto places like Sarah Lawrence or Berkeley... just too liberal for me. As for the Ivies, I'd have to win the lottery before they could go there!

[joliebelle]

Clemson or Notre Dame.

[HQWest]

Originally Posted by joliebelle

Clemson or Notre Dame.

My child under no circumstances will be going to Cal (Stanford is cheaper out of state and a nicer place to live besides), Notre Dame, or Baylor....

I might just be really depressed if they decided to go to West Point - so glad I talked my way out of that one.

[sdtennisgal]

Originally Posted by HQWest

My child under no circumstances will be going to Cal (Stanford is cheaper out of state and a nicer place to live besides), Notre Dame, or Baylor....

I might just be really depressed if they decided to go to West Point - so glad I talked my way out of that one.

As a Cal grad I do feel the need to point out that much of the "left wing" image of Cal comes from the surrounding community and not the student body. Granted, I went there for grad school, but it was pretty obvious to me then (which was not TOO long ago, though "long ago" gets longer each year) that the undergrads are super focused on academics. Freshman year, in particular, is known for being extremely academically unforgiving.
I think in comparing Stanford and Cal, you would see that the Stanford undergraduate student body is probably along the same lines politically. However, Stanford is surrounded by a very affluent community that is slightly conservative (by Bay Area standards) while Cal is surrounded by one of the looniest cities in the nation. I think both schools offer exceptional academic opportunities for their students.
With that said, I can understand a parent's concerns. The first time I saw the hippies on Telegraph marching naked (I don't know if they still do that, which was completely different from the guy who refused to wear clothing to class...I think I am hurting my argument ), I was competely caught off guard. By the time I graduated I was not phased at all.

[PeppyGPhiB]

Originally Posted by AnotherKD

As for the Ivies, I'd have to win the lottery before they could go there!

No you wouldn't, because the Ivies - like lots of private schools - have excellent financial aid. Most of the Ivies pay almost the entire tuition now for their students. And many other private schools (such as my alma mater) have such nice endowments that they give generous grants and scholarships, making them possibly more affordable than a public university (certainly an out-of-state public).

[AXOmom]

Baylor is a Southern Baptist school, yes,(so is Wake Forest), but speaking as someone who grew up Southern Baptist, we considered it a SB school in name only. I can't say what constitutes crazy ties - Southern Baptists are independent little cusses - shoot - we barely had ties to each other, let alone the schools.

Like my fellow alum WC, I would have to go with NO Oregon State. Youngest actually did consider it. I don't think I could've let her come home wearing orange and black. Blech! Fortunatly UW was never on the table (she inexplicably hated Seattle).