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[Titchou]

gee_ess: I have been trying to be very polite and circumspect here about this situation. Yes, it's competitive there. But the PH environment overall is nothing like Alabama. And it's very indicative of the problems when PH fails to see the need for expansion and the University president, getting tired of the wailing and gnashing of teeth from alumni, finally tells them to expand.

[gee_ess]

Originally Posted by Titchou

gee_ess: I have been trying to be very polite and circumspect here about this situation. Yes, it's competitive there. But the PH environment overall is nothing like Alabama. And it's very indicative of the problems when PH fails to see the need for expansion and the University president, getting tired of the wailing and gnashing of teeth from alumni, finally tells them to expand.

I think we are on the same page, Titchou, or maybe I am misunderstanding your point. If so, feel free to PM me. I am not really comparing Alabama to ARkansas specifically, just in the terms of 'this is a large state school, so are we'.

Also, let me say that the current UA president may be more supportive of the Greek system, but the last was not and this problem has been building for a long time.

[PhoenixAzul]

I'm just trying to understand, because this is so far removed from my experience...

When people say, "poor panhellenic environment"...are they speaking of a general unwillingness to work together for community goals outside of expansion/recruitment? Or is it just in regards to expansion? Is this a function of an extremely competitive recruitment, where chapters are constantly battling for the top PNMs?

It is just really interesting to me, because it would seem that expansion would benefit everybody. A new sorority would get a chapter at a prestigious school, filled with qualified and quality new members, and the existing chapters would get some relief from massive pledge classes and overstuffed chapter meetings. Am I oversimplifying?