Casey Anthony Trial

[DrPhil]

The View is on now. Oh snap. This is going to be a hot one.

[knight_shadow]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

The View is on now. Oh snap. This is going to be a hot one.

*raises fists to the heavens*

I should've worked from home today.

[Munchkin03]

Originally Posted by Shellfish

/swerve

I was astonished to see on World News Tonight a couple of nights ago scenes of people fighting to get seats in the courtroom. Then, in the paper today, this:

It's all going into my great unwritten treatise on fame as the new opiate of the masses.

She needs to purify herself in the waters of Lake Minnetonka. Or, maybe she just needs to get laid.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by knight_shadow

*raises fists to the heavens*

I should've worked from home today.

You're missing some interesting stuff here.

Whoopi Goldberg is talking about the difficulty of being on a jury. Casey Anthony's parents are supposedly getting death threats. People are asking that they be charged with perjury. They showed a clip of the parents leaving immediately after the verdict.

They are actually have a good, tamed, debate. Prosecutor Jeff Ashton is their next guest.

http://www2.tbo.com/news/news/2011/j...ony-ar-242100/

[DrPhil]

Barbara Walters asked Ashton if people feel so strongly about this case because Casey Anthony's pretty, Elizabeth added because she's white.

The attorney said "no," he thinks it's because this happened so close in time to Trenton Duckett. I disagree. Most people have either never heard of Duckett or aren't that familiar with Duckett. (http://helpfindtrenton.com/)

Then they discussed why people are so angered by this acquittal.

(He called Barbara Walters "sir" and they laughed, saying he's been dealing with this case and male judges for 3 years.)

[BluPhire]

Trenton Ducket???

Yeah never heard of him.

[DrPhil]

The View ends on an exciting note.

Joy Behar's still talking about the details of the case and how guilty Casey Anthony could be.

Whoopi Goldberg: She was acquitted! Acquitted! A jury of 12 people found her not guilty. The problem with trials like this is people won't take what the justice system, that many claim to believe in, seriously. People will keep going and going and going...then what's the point of a justice system (unless, of course, there will be an appeal)

Joy Behar: That's the court's decision but I'm talking about the court of public opinion...that I believe in.

Audience: Applause and scream.

Whoopi Yells: The court of public opinion is what gets people killed in false convictions and the death penalty. (Me: It's also what gets Casey Anthony's parents death threats and condones street justice when people think the justice system has failed.) Public opinion is like an (bleep--she said asshole but they bleeped it), everyone has one.

Amen, Whoopi.

Barbara Walter's Nightline will have the defense attorney this evening.

[KSig RC]

The greatest irony of all is that the zealots upset over the verdict (and pissed at jurors they don't know) are actually operating on the exact same axis as the jurors, just in a different direction (from a decision making standpoint).

The zealots cling to the notion of "justice" for Caylee - but the ideal of the court system is that the jurors must only concern themselves with justice for the defendant. The jurors concerned themselves not with the child, but with meting out justice for Casey Anthony - and we need to get the fuck over ourselves with the notion that justice is purely a positive thing, or purely a 'punishment' thing.

Justice is simply applying the law correctly - conflating justice and righteousness is a stark, silly and ultimately self-serving load of crap. It also wins trials, so <3 <3 <3. But yeah. Whether we like it or not, a court of law just cannot concern itself with "justice" for the plaintiff, the victim or those related - in fact, the notion is borderline silly to consider.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by KSig RC

The greatest irony of all is that the zealots upset over the verdict (and pissed at jurors they don't know) are actually operating on the exact same axis as the jurors, just in a different direction (from a decision making standpoint).

The zealots cling to the notion of "justice" for Caylee - but the ideal of the court system is that the jurors must only concern themselves with justice for the defendant. The jurors concerned themselves not with the child, but with meting out justice for Casey Anthony - and we need to get the fuck over ourselves with the notion that justice is purely a positive thing, or purely a 'punishment' thing.

Justice is simply applying the law correctly - conflating justice and righteousness is a stark, silly and ultimately self-serving load of crap. It also wins trials, so <3 <3 <3. But yeah. Whether we like it or not, a court of law just cannot concern itself with "justice" for the plaintiff, the victim or those related - in fact, the notion is borderline silly to consider.

Yes, that's also one of the reasons why false convictions and harsher sentences occur. People are so angry over what happened and want to see someone, anyone, convicted and punished. Justice for Caylee is not synonymous with justice for Casey.

[AnotherKD]

I just saw this-
"The family may never know what happened to Caylee Marie Anthony," George and Cindy Anthony's lawyer Mark Lippman, said in a statement. "They now have closure for this chapter of their life. They will now begin the long process of rebuilding their lives."

"Despite the baseless defense chosen by Casey Anthony, the family believes that the jury made a fair decision based on the evidence presented, the testimony presented, the scientific information presented, and the rules that they were given by the Honorable Judge Perry to guide them," the statement continued.

I assume the "baseless" defense that they're referring to is the allegation of sexual abuse by Casey's father? Or am I off on that?

[KSig RC]

Originally Posted by AnotherKD

I assume the "baseless" defense that they're referring to is the allegation of sexual abuse by Casey's father? Or am I off on that?

Seems well-chosen to encompass both the sexual abuse, and the implications of the parents' role in a coverup of accidental death.

[Munchkin03]

Originally Posted by AnotherKD

I just saw this-

I assume the "baseless" defense that they're referring to is the allegation of sexual abuse by Casey's father? Or am I off on that?

There's that, then there's the defense's allegation that Caylee drowned in her grandparents' swimming pool, and that they helped Casey cover it up.

A good chunk of the "reasonable doubt" in my mind came from her mother's weird testimony about the chloroform Google searches, as well as from "the month without seeing Caylee and believing that Zany the Nanny--who they had never met--was taking her on a tour of Florida theme parks.

[33girl]

All I can say is, if the jurors really were the awful people many are saying they are...wouldn't they have just taken the easy way out and found her guilty and given the public what they're screaming for? They'd be automatic heroes instead of having to put up with the harassment and death threats they're sure to be getting soon.

[BluPhire]

Originally Posted by 33girl

All I can say is, if the jurors really were the awful people many are saying they are...wouldn't they have just taken the easy way out and found her guilty and given the public what they're screaming for? They'd be automatic heroes instead of having to put up with the harassment and death threats they're sure to be getting soon.

But then they would have to sit through sentencing.

Remember one had a cruise this week.

[kiteflyersmom]

I didn't read the whole thread but my take on the question of why THIS child? The same reason why Nancy Grace is popular and why we enjoyed seeing Simon humiliate people. People tend to be facinated by awful things. From the beginning we had a kid missing, a mom out partying and whoring around, and lots of inclusive proof that made an armchair detective out of many people. Oh, and let's not forget the freakshow of a family with all of their lies! Pretty lurid stuff, actually.