Casey Anthony Trial

[AGDee]

I don't think that, as a juror, I could convict anybody without 1) A cause of death (to show that a murder occurred at all) and 2) Some kind of physical evidence to link that person to the murder. I can't see anybody being convicted on this one because there is no proof that she was even murdered.

[Kevin]

Originally Posted by christiangirl

I absolutely believe it was Casey based on what little I know but if it can be proved beyond reasonable doubt that it was someone else, I wouldn't say another word about it.

Wow, so you'd impose a burden on the defense that not only would they have to prove innocence rather than keep the other side from proving guilt, but further, you'd require them to prove someone else did it?

And with what defendant's crime lab and investigative force would they do this magic you speak of?

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by Kevin

Wow, so you'd impose a burden on the defense that not only would they have to prove innocence rather than keep the other side from proving guilt, but further, you'd require them to prove someone else did it?

And with what defendant's crime lab and investigative force would they do this magic you speak of?

Christiangirl already said she doesn't know much about the law.

Christiangirl, being found not guilty does not mean you were found innocent and it does not require proof that someone else did it. The point is whether or not the evidence can convict YOU of doing it. If there's evidence that someone else and someone in particular did it, okay I guess, but generally speaking a separate trial would have to delve much further into that.

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On this morning's news, a legal expert was explaining the jury's decision. He said that a mother (I assume he also meant parent, in general) is supposed to protect her children. But this isn't about mother vs. child and anger over a supposed bad parent. This was the state vs. Casey Anthony and the evidence just wasn't there to convict.

She was found guilty of 4 misdemeanor counts that could carry a sentence of 1-4 years each (I think that's what was stated). I wonder if she'll receive any prison time.

The news was also criticizing Casey Anthony's smile and celebration as though she should have been crying or had a blank face because her daughter is still dead. Perhaps, perhaps not. Anthony's parents supposedly had a blank face and left the courtroom before the media frenzy began.

[violetpretty]

Even though Casey Anthony slipped through the cracks, I'm glad I live in a country where a person is innocent until proven guilty. Except if you live in West Memphis, Arkansas.

Innocent people do not lie to police. Accidents are not made to look like murders. Unfortunately, common sense is not proof of guilt in a court of law.

[Kevin]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

She was found guilty of 4 misdemeanor counts that could carry a sentence of 1-4 years each (I think that's what was stated). I wonder if she'll receive any prison time.

4 misdemeanor counts of lying to the police, which each carry up to 1 year in the pokey. Anthony has already been in jail since '08 awaiting trial, so she's served three years of that already. She may serve a year, but that's doubtful.

The news was also criticizing Casey Anthony's smile and celebration as though she should have been crying or had a blank face because her daughter is still dead. Perhaps, perhaps not. Anthony's parents supposedly had a blank face and left the courtroom before the media frenzy began.

Gotta fill that dead airtime.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by violetpretty

Innocent people do not lie to police. Accidents are not made to look like murders. Unfortunately, common sense is not proof of guilt in a court of law.

This isn't about guilt vs. innocence. She was convicted of lying so the whole liar thing is covered. A liar does not make a murderer unless there is evidence as such. Stranger things have happened so an accident looking like a murder is not so impossible that it could remove doubt.

I don't consider any of this common sense. It may be emotion and assumption but not common sense. And thank God the law is not (solely) based on what some consider common sense.

[violetpretty]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

This isn't about guilt vs. innocence. She was convicted of lying so the whole liar thing is covered. A liar does not make a murderer unless there is evidence as such. Stranger things have happened so an accident looking like a murder is not so impossible that it could remove doubt.

I don't consider any of this common sense. It may be emotion and assumption but not common sense. And thank God the law is not (solely) based on what some consider common sense.

I suppose I didn't make clear that I DO understand the difference between innocent and "not guilty". I understand, and agree with the jury's verdict. There was not enough evidence to convict. That doesn't mean I don't think the bitch did it.

A liar does not a murderer make in an American court of law. My point is that if you are innocent of a crime, you know the truth will save you, and therefore, you tell the truth. That sounds like common sense to me.

She's just lucky it took investigators 6 months to find the body, or else there'd probably be some pretty damning physical evidence.

[DrPhil]

The Early Show is showing clips of protests and people's responses as soon as the verdict was announced. I get some people's anger and sadness over this all. But it's just like any other public court case. The Early Show is now showing previous "trials of the century" including one that happened 50 years before the O.J. trial that led to the banning of the media in courtrooms. Then 50 years later cable networks were created and the O.J. trial was covered extensively.

Pardon me but I also couldn't help but smirk at a few of the reactions. That includes a whiny, crying little girl who said something like "oh, I can't help but think about my own mom...she loves me so much...." Uh...yeah...ok...uh...hmmmmm....

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by violetpretty

I suppose I didn't make clear that I DO understand the difference between innocent and "not guilty". I understand, and agree with the jury's verdict. There was not enough evidence to convict.

Cool.

I still don't consider any of this common sense.

ETA: I did see where you said you're glad you live in a country where people are innocent until proven guilty.

[violetpretty]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

Cool.

I still don't consider any of this common sense.

I already knew you don't have any.

[Munchkin03]

Well, it's the role of the prosecutor to bring the case in a certain way. The prosecutors failed to do so--there was reasonable doubt pinging all over the place.

My FB page hasn't been popping the way that some of y'all have experienced. I'm lucky, I guess.

[agzg]

It's grating to me, the "as a mother I couldn't do this, a mother can't, she's a bad mom."

As if it's totally normal to kill someone of any age who's just not related to you. And what about the dads?

But that's a different conversation.

[BluPhire]

Originally Posted by violetpretty

A liar does not a murderer make in an American court of law. My point is that if you are innocent of a crime, you know the truth will save you, and therefore, you tell the truth. That sounds like common sense to me.

LOL The truth has sent many a man to jail. Sorry maybe I was born into a cynical race so truth in a court of law has never done a lot of the people I've known any good.

She's just lucky it took investigators 6 months to find the body, or else there'd probably be some pretty damning physical evidence.

Court cases have convicted people on bodies that have been found 3, 5 and 10 years later so I can't agree with you on that one.

But in the grand scheme I understand where your thoughts are coming from so hey.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by violetpretty

I already knew you don't have any.

Uh...are you bored?

[BluPhire]

Originally Posted by Munchkin03

My FB page hasn't been popping the way that some of y'all have experienced. I'm lucky, I guess.

Just means you have boring friends.

LOL

Just messing with you.