Sophomore freaking out

[VandalSquirrel]

Originally Posted by roses1992

The reason for the drop was economics and a math course, two of the most failed courses at mizzou, I got C+'s. I may drop and join a NPHC instead. My family wasn't very excited for my decision to join a non-Black organization.

Orly?

NPHC groups care just as much about academics as NPC groups. Please pledge the library before you consider any Greek organization.


Two courses at a C+ that are 3 or 4 credits will not tank you to a 2.9 unless you weren't doing so hot before hand. A C+ is a 2.3 so I'm thinking you had one or more B- (2.7) grades and not that many B(3.0) B+ (3.3) A- (3.7) or A (4.0) grades your first semester. I have never been graded in a +/- system, but with a B+, a B, and two B- grades you wouldn't hit a 3.0, and a C+ is actually a little bit better considering it is a 2.3 and not a flat 2.0.

I also find it unfortunate that Mizzou has tutoring for math and economics courses at http://learningcenter.missouri.edu/ which you didn't mention using, just that they are the most failed at Mizzou. You didn't fail, you got a C+ and I bet that if you spent less time on your laundry list of activities you'd have better than a 2.9 overall GPA with 24-30 credits under your belt.

[IrishLake]

Originally Posted by roses1992

The reason for the drop was economics and a math course, two of the most failed courses at mizzou, I got C+'s. I may drop and join a NPHC instead. My family wasn't very excited for my decision to join a non-Black organization.

WOW, that's insulting... to NPC and NPHC alike.

Originally Posted by VandalSquirrel

Orly?

NPHC groups care just as much about academics as NPC groups. Please pledge the library before you consider any Greek organization.

This might be my new siggy!

[VandalSquirrel]

Originally Posted by IrishLake

WOW, that's insulting... to NPC and NPHC alike.



This might be my new siggy!

I can't claim to be the originator, that's all Senusret I. He also coined "We've got letters, you've got dreams!"

Though I do think the library, and all services within, all highly under utilized by undergraduate students in higher education. It isn't just a bunch of nerdy looking women with their hair in buns reading and shushing people, not even close to that ridiculous stereotype.

I am full of LULZ at all the Teen Talk Barbie PNMs with their GPA issues "Math class is tough!" You know what's tough? Corundum on the Mohs scale, that's hard.

[roses1992]

I got tutors at the beginning of the semester for each class, but that is of no matter now that the semester has been over for some time.

And it would be disrespectful to jump to NPHC, I'll focus on my studies instead.

Thank you everyone for the helpful advice, it made me think of things I have not considered very much.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by IrishLake

WOW, that's insulting... to NPC and NPHC alike.

Indeed. Not because she absolutely couldn't qualify with a 2.93 but because NPHC should never be a second choice.

Originally Posted by roses1992

And it would be disrespectful to jump to NPHC, I'll focus on my studies instead.

Thank you everyone for the helpful advice, it made me think of things I have not considered very much.

Good luck to you. And keep in mind that these are the opinions of people on Greekchat. Only the sorority guidelines and the opinions of the sorority members who are making the decisions matter.

Originally Posted by DeltaBetaBaby

Okay, I know that it may make it tough for a woman going through recruitment, but why do we keep pretending around here that a B average is a terrible GPA? As I posted above, a 3.0 would be Dean's List in a lot of places.

I realize, too, that chapters want a high chapter GPA, and probably have to meet a minimum standard, but unless you are comparing the chapter GPA to the all-women's average, it really doesn't mean a thing on its own.

THANK YOU!

A 2.93 is not only eligible for Dean's List at many schools, it is higher than the average college student's cumulative gpa. I would wager that the average GCer's gpa wasn't too much higher than a 2.93 when they were first and second years in college.

[DeltaBetaBaby]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

A 2.93 is not only eligible for Dean's List at many schools, it is higher than the average college student's cumulative gpa. I would wager that the average GCer's gpa wasn't too much higher than a 2.93 when they were first and second years in college.

Not to mention that GPA can be heavily correlated with privilege. Maybe the OP went to a crappy high school and didn't have any good math teachers. Maybe she had to work part-time. When sorting resumes, I'd take a 3.0 with a good story over a boring 4.0 any day.

[VandalSquirrel]

Originally Posted by DeltaBetaBaby

Okay, I know that it may make it tough for a woman going through recruitment, but why do we keep pretending around here that a B average is a terrible GPA? As I posted above, a 3.0 would be Dean's List in a lot of places.

I realize, too, that chapters want a high chapter GPA, and probably have to meet a minimum standard, but unless you are comparing the chapter GPA to the all-women's average, it really doesn't mean a thing on its own.

Originally Posted by DrPhil

Indeed. Not because she absolutely couldn't qualify with a 2.93 but because NPHC should never be a second choice.



Good luck to you. And keep in mind that these are the opinions of people on Greekchat. Only the sorority guidelines and the opinions of the sorority members who are making the decisions matter.



THANK YOU!

A 2.93 is not only eligible for Dean's List at many schools, it is higher than the average college student's cumulative gpa. I would wager that the average GCer's gpa wasn't too much higher than a 2.93 when they were first and second years in college.

Originally Posted by DeltaBetaBaby

Not to mention that GPA can be heavily correlated with privilege. Maybe the OP went to a crappy high school and didn't have any good math teachers. Maybe she had to work part-time. When sorting resumes, I'd take a 3.0 with a good story over a boring 4.0 any day.

I'm not saying that a 2.9 is the worst thing in the world, but for this individual poster they mentioned their laundry list of activities which reads to me as being more focused on the social than the academic. Also the +/- system makes things more complicated, but the fact I could find the academic assistance center for the two courses that allegedly are the root problem of the GPA issue, and the most failed, and I don't attend Mizzou makes me wonder if the OP is utilizing all her resources. I looked at their specific Greek grade report, most recent is fall 2010, and all of the NPC sororities were above a 3.0, with the average of sorority women at 3.25, and Mizzou women a 3.14.

I am well aware of privilege but blaming it on having a crappy math teacher in high school doesn't explain why this student wouldn't be placed in an appropriate math course to her abilities as Mizzou has every student take a placement exam as of fall 2010. Oh and working part time, not a great excuse. That goes back to the laundry list of activities I mentioned, lack of time management and focusing on academics. How will someone handle sorority life if they are using a job as an excuse (not that the OP did, you mentioned it as a viable reason).

[roses1992]

Originally Posted by VandalSquirrel

I'm not saying that a 2.9 is the worst thing in the world, but for this individual poster they mentioned their laundry list of activities which reads to me as being more focused on the social than the academic. Also the +/- system makes things more complicated, but the fact I could find the academic assistance center for the two courses that allegedly are the root problem of the GPA issue, and the most failed, and I don't attend Mizzou makes me wonder if the OP is utilizing all her resources. I looked at their specific Greek grade report, most recent is fall 2010, and all of the NPC sororities were above a 3.0, with the average of sorority women at 3.25, and Mizzou women a 3.14.

I am well aware of privilege but blaming it on having a crappy math teacher in high school doesn't explain why this student wouldn't be placed in an appropriate math course to her abilities as Mizzou has every student take a placement exam as of fall 2010. Oh and working part time, not a great excuse. That goes back to the laundry list of activities I mentioned, lack of time management and focusing on academics. How will someone handle sorority life if they are using a job as an excuse (not that the OP did, you mentioned it as a viable reason).

When I said I had a "laundry list" I just meant that I was rather involved freshman year. Balancing school and clubs wasn't too difficult...so I incorrectly assumed I could do the same second semester.but didn't account for a new job and new campus position, I definitely focused on my academics but I gave harder classes the same amount of time as I did my classes during my first semester which was a huge mistake. I would never use my job or my clubs as an excuse, its my own fault for stretching myself too thin when I thought second semester would be the same as the first.

And as far as high school is concerned, none of my teachers were crappy lol. I was in honors programs in all areas except science and did fairly well. It was really just a lesson in time management differences from one semester to the other. I got it together at the end of the semester which is better than correcting it during my upperclassmen years, in my opinion.

Thanks again for all the input, I will probably go ahead and rush for the experience if nothing else.