MTV and Sororities

[ChiOJenn78]

Originally posted by observant1


Greeks as well as non-greek already know the rumors and myths. MTV will not be stating anything new.

Greeks know the myths and the rumors. Maybe non-Greeks don't. I had one girl look at me with a straight face(she wasn't Greek) and tell me that she heard that the XYZ's on her campus hazed their pledges and circled their fat. And she was dead serious. So, when MTV shows a so-called reality show like this, people are going to assume that this is what all Greeks do. I'm especially afraid that the girls who just graduated highschool and are heading off to college are going to think this is true. When I was a freshman, I believed what I heard, because I didn't know any better. Now, I do.

I'm also dreading what my friends are going to say to me-my non-Greek friends-after they see the show. I'm upset that I have to take the shit because one group decided that this was a great idea.

[Lil_ChiO_Lady]

What brings in RATINGS?? Drama...Not girls sitting around having chants and singing songs..MTV did this for a reason to get more people to watch and that is their main focus, is to get grils having fights and storylines..Why do some of us watch reality shows like Real World or Road Rules? To see some ass kickin'..I think it is sad that it is going to have it's negative effects on the Greek System but we can all make it through this cause we are strong minded individuals and whatever problems comes our way we have to shake them haters off basically,lol..Drama about drama just causes more Drama...Even though I have a problem with the series I am not going to watch it and I urge you all to do the same if it is bothering you all so much.

We have always had stereotypes about us for many,many years and still have continued to become a strong system. So don't stress is what I am saying but it is good to know everyone's opinions on the fact that we are not what the public believes us to be. Okay let me stop now I don't wanna write a novel.

[josh8o]

Originally posted by AXO Alum


Yes - I posted that! But those were the author's words -- not mine! As far as being catty -- I think losing sight of what MTV was REALLY after in the first place is a worse offense. Am I pissed about this? YES - because just like with other things in life, I hate to see what I have worked hard for fall apart in a matter of minutes because SOMEBODY (in this case those who participated from Sigma Alpha Epsilon Pi) made a POOR decision without thinking about the consequences! And WE all pay for those consequences. Nobody is going to watch this and say "oh, that's just the SAEPi's" -- nope, just like Mark Washburn did, it will be generalized to ALL sororities and greek life. Because this is what we have to deal with - media who wants the slant.

Anyone watch Survivor because you know that they are all going to be great friends and no one will get the boot? Hardly! You watch because you WANT to see the drama. Anybody go to see a movie because you heard it SUCKED and you want to watch people be nice to each other with no action? Yeah right!

Call me a bitch and call me rude if you want to - I've been called worse and here I am with MY opinion as always. I'm sorry, but I've worked too hard to see things fall apart on television in what we all knew was going to be the slanted view in the first place.

Hmmm...I know - let's all play "NICE" about this and pretend that nothing bad will come of it (not that we aren't already seeing the negative responses in the media!) Maybe if we all pretend really hard then we can all live in Fantasy Land!

(Side note...DeltAlum - I certainly wasn't calling you out - I just know that the other 3 million times we've discussed these issues, you have always said where it will lead. You have the most experience of anyone on these boards as far as media publications go, and you know what you're talking about. Unfortunately, some people STILL will not believe that crap stinks until they put their noses in it!!)

babe, you didn't get my post at all....reread it and possibly you will see what i was saying.

[cash78mere]

AXOAlum---on target, as always!!!

This whole idea is sickening. Pure stupidity on their parts.

[hannahgirl]

ok....honestly....

I'm just as pissed off about this as everyone else. But it has already been done and what more can we do about it? basically nothing! As the Panhellenic President on my campus, I know that we will experience the questions from PNMs and so on....but we have to learn that we need to stand our ground and continue to show what our organizations really stand for...whether local or national. Its not like these stereotypes have never existed, its just the fact that we are trying to get rid of them. I can say that honestly they will never go away and that is clear. I believe people will still be interested in joining if we keep from delivering these stereotypes in our everyday actions.
I guess we will just see what happens after this show is broadcasted on national TV. Until then, I will keep my opinion about the women who agreed to doing this to myself, because in a way I feel as if they might of thought it was a good idea at the time. Poor judgement....thats all. Lets not beat them into the ground just to blow off our steam. Watch or don't watch...it'll affect chapters across the nation either way you look at it. Just deal with it and everything will be ok (i hope).

theres my 2 cents.....

[AXO Alum]

Originally posted by lioness

But I, for one, refuse to believe that any TV show, bad press, or negative viewer reaction will EVER tear Sigma apart, or for that matter, any other strong organization, especially ones that have been around 100 years longer than us.

Hmmm....maybe you should come to my campus and talk to the XO ladies about what kind of hell they go through during recruitment (formal and informal) because of a totally mis-guided website by some of GC's resident psychos!! And its not just on my campus -- its other places where XO is - you'll read for yourself on these boards where PNM's, daughters of greeks, etc. are at campuses with XO and they all want to know if the stuff described on that website is for real -- and we all KNOW its not true!! You don't have to be a XO to know that that website is full of lies. The point of the matter remains that its VERY hard (if not impossible) to undo the negative stuff -- EVEN if it is completely false to begin with!

I am glad that you are proud of your values -- I am not trying to take that away from you. I am simply shaking my head and wishing that SOMEBODY would have thought about this before they went through with it. Notice the headline of that article I posted...did it say "SIGMA Life" - honestly, did it? You tell me what it said and what groups that word GENERALIZES!

Apparantly from all the commercials, SOMEBODY is saying stuff! And I'm sorry, but how you can stand by and let the words "house full of them" in references to BITCHES be something that you are proud of?? That doesn't show ANY kind of values to me.....but then again, (as I'm fond of saying on here) my momma taught me better.

As for those of us being accused of "kicking them while they are down" -- I think of it more like this:

You lay down with dogs - you get up with FLEAS! (Just another momma-ism from AXO Alum) -- I care too much about my organization and my sisters than to go and let my chapter screw themselves into something like this.

Cash - thanks - you are the kind of SISTER that I am SO proud to call mine

[Dionysus]

Originally posted by UNFSigmaChi
I don't know if you have seen the new Sorority commercial

Why yes, I had. Is it just me? Or, do these girls look really "tv" like?

[Dionysus]

This is either going to make or break the greek system.
More likely to break.

MTV+greek life+drama+stereotypes+MILLIONS OF PRE-COLLEGE VIEWERS=Disaster for greeks.

I don't know what that sorority was thinking when they let MTV step foot into their territory. As someone mentioned, this IS NOT a national vs. local thing, the non-greeks couldn't care less, all they will see is a SORORITY and that's it.

Let's prepare to boycott this show!

[maggieaxid]

I totally don't think we need to boycott the show-YET. Give it a few episodes, and then we'll go nuts...as i am sure NPC is going to do anyway.

And for those of you who are part of Sigma get ready for some serious bashing of your sisters. I have been around this board a few times, and I don't think anyone is going to have any trouble bashing anything that comes off negative. Just a warning.

[AlphaSigLana]

Well I don't know about your houses, but lets face it most of us, when we live together are catty and bitchy. living in my sorority house was pure hell. Some sisters stuffed one girls stuff in orange garbage bags and wrote biohazard on them bc this girl would make up stuff about girls in the house to tell guys etc. There were many more bad moments than this.
If someone is going to believe everything they see on tv then we probably don't want them in our house any way. But the truth is when you get a big group of girls together there are going to be fights which is unfortunate.

[Dionysus]

Originally posted by AlphaSigLana
Well I don't know about your houses, but lets face it most of us, when we live together are catty and bitchy. living in my sorority house was pure hell. Some sisters stuffed one girls stuff in orange garbage bags and wrote biohazard on them bc this girl would make up stuff about girls in the house to tell guys etc. There were many more bad moments than this.
If someone is going to believe everything they see on tv then we probably don't want them in our house any way. But the truth is when you get a big group of girls together there are going to be fights which is unfortunate.

You're right too much estrogen doesn't mix!
Even if there isn't a house. But, I think the bigger concern is that MTV has a big reputation for reinforcing stereotypes. I wouldn't be surprised at all if I see these girls binge drinking or being sexually loose on the show.

[FuzzieAlum]

Well I don't know about your houses, but lets face it most of us, when we live together are catty and bitchy. living in my sorority house was pure hell. Some sisters stuffed one girls stuff in orange garbage bags and wrote biohazard on them bc this girl would make up stuff about girls in the house to tell guys etc. There were many more bad moments than this.

Hell, that's crazy! NOTHING like that ever happened in my house. I'm not saying we were always lovey-dovey or that people always got along or even that we never accidentally hurt each other - but there were lines we did NOT cross!

[maggieaxid]

I lived in the house too. We didn't always get along, but it usually involved slamming doors and the occasional eating of someone elses food just to piss them off. but nothing major.

[lifesaver]

Originally posted by Cream
I'm actually not too concerned about this show. Maybe I'll watch it or maybe not. I think that the viewers of MTV are sophisticated enough to know that it isn't reality.

Dont get carried away. Remember, these are the same fools who think Eminem is talented. lol.

[Honeykiss1974]

Originally posted by lifesaver


Dont get carried away. Remember, these are the same fools who think Eminem is talented. lol.