Publicity Stunt? 51 yo unfamous actor weds 16 yo girl

[nolesgirl]

She doesn't even look close to 16 - and I don't mean that in a good way! At 16, most girls are pretty anyway, and I don't think any 16 year old should ever have to wear that much make-up or dress like that!! It's soo gross!

[33girl]

Originally Posted by nolesgirl

She doesn't even look close to 16 - and I don't mean that in a good way! At 16, most girls are pretty anyway, and I don't think any 16 year old should ever have to wear that much make-up or dress like that!! It's soo gross!

Meh, not any different than the Eastern European 14 year olds who are in Vogue looking 30. Except that's high fashion gross, and this is trailer trash gross.

[DrPhil]

Okay...this is a good time to ask why do a lot of (usually white) people say "trailer trash?"

I always found that to be classist and also implying that anything that's not white perfection must be "trailer trash."

[agzg]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

Okay...this is a good time to ask why do a lot of (usually white) people say "trailer trash?"

I always found that to be classist and also implying that anything that's not white perfection must be "trailer trash."

I have no idea. I hate it. Lots of folks live in trailers. Also, I prefer not to call people trash, in general.

And, I hear Roma/Travellers referred to as "trailer trash" before, as well as members of various Native American nations (who, uh, don't have too much of a choice if they live on the reservation because the US really FUBARed that whole thing up), and I think it's completely ignorant of any cultural traditions/ramifications inherent in those types of communities.

As a side note, no, I don't really think this woman is 16. But if she is, I really hope she's actually entering the union of her own accord.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by agzg

I have no idea. I hate it. Lots of folks live in trailers. Also, I prefer not to call people trash, in general.

And, I hear Roma/Travellers referred to as "trailer trash" before, as well as members of various Native American nations (who, uh, don't have too much of a choice if they live on the reservation because the US really FUBARed that whole thing up), and I think it's completely ignorant of any cultural traditions/ramifications inherent in those types of communities.

I dislike the use of "classy" and "trashy." I think it's dumb, based on assumptions and labels, and I refuse to believe that most people who use those terms are as "classy" and "nontrashy" as they insist--even if they don't live in a trailer.

And oh yeah I was getting "trailer trash" mixed with the annoying phrase "white trash." I guess they are related but different, dumb labels.

Originally Posted by agzg

As a side note, no, I don't really think this woman is 16. But if she is, I really hope she's actually entering the union of her own accord.

I too hope this is consensual.

As for whether she's 16, tons of makeup, some plastic surgery, and/or airbrushing can make someone look older. She may be very 16 when interacting with her and seeing her without all the gooblygob.

[33girl]

Originally Posted by agzg

And, I hear Roma/Travellers referred to as "trailer trash" before, as well as members of various Native American nations (who, uh, don't have too much of a choice if they live on the reservation because the US really FUBARed that whole thing up), and I think it's completely ignorant of any cultural traditions/ramifications inherent in those types of communities.

I have never, ever, EVER heard "trailer trash" used to describe any of those people. If anything, the people I hear it used for are...ultimately...technically...WASPs!!

Bra straps showing are trashy. Period. I don't care where you live or what race you are. The end.

As far as 16 year olds getting married, let's discuss the Little House on the Prairie episode where Pa gave the okey-dokey to Mary getting engaged at 13 so she could get married at 16. Big hooters do not a mature woman make, Pa.

[victoriana]

Originally Posted by 33girl

As far as 16 year olds getting married, let's discuss the Little House on the Prairie episode where Pa gave the okey-dokey to Mary getting engaged at 13 so she could get married at 16. Big hooters do not a mature woman make, Pa.

Oh 33girl, you made me lol so hard. But seriously. I seriously doubt that this girl could be 16. She looks at least 25. However, there is a certain female I know who has the same thing going on. At 18, she looked 30. It's sad, but it does happen, hence the term "butterface."

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by 33girl

Bra straps showing are trashy. Period. I don't care where you live or what race you are. The end.

I shall ignore how gendered this perspective is and just say that "trashy" is completely different from "trailer trash."

Originally Posted by 33girl

As far as 16 year olds getting married, let's discuss the Little House on the Prairie episode where Pa gave the okey-dokey to Mary getting engaged at 13 so she could get married at 16. Big hooters do not a mature woman make, Pa.

I hate you. LOL.

That reminds me of how often high school boys look older than their age and are sometimes treated like men. These are still BOYS. Having a certain type of body and even a deep voice does not a mature man make.

[katydidKD]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

Okay...this is a good time to ask why do a lot of (usually white) people say "trailer trash?"

I always found that to be classist and also implying that anything that's not white perfection must be "trailer trash."

Only you can manage to make this about race

[agzg]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

rant/
LOL. I also hate Walmart but for different reasons. Walmart got lucky with this class action lawsuit. Realllllllll lucky. I agree with the Supreme Court's decision although I hate Walmart and know that this sets an awesome precedent for Walmart and other companies.
/rant

You and I are >here<. Unfortunately, unless they can get some groups of classes together that are still of reasonable size, this means the women have a really hard battle ahead of them.

Originally Posted by katydidKD

Only you can manage to make this about race

WTF? Boy, this comment is even dumber than the comment that set off this whole trailer trash hijack.

Sidenote: "Classy" is an acceptable modifier when it describes inanimate things. "A classy event." "A classy dress." "A classy restaurant."

It gets squicky when applied to people. "A classy personality" actually works, too. And, in some ways, "trashy" is the same.

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by katydidKD

Only you can manage to make this about race

Ooh yay DrPhil gets a corner square

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by katydidKD

Only you can manage to make this about race

Okay you can manage to be on my ass.

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by DZTurtle11

Because there are trailerpark trash people who have mildly attractive kids they hope will become famous and buy them a big house I mean she looks anorexic, like she got her moves from Jersey Shore, and was allowed to date someone over 3 times her age. What is left for her at this point? Ugh, I am so over these trashy people getting any hopes of air time.

Of course let's not get on this nasty, pervy freak who can't find a woman anywhere near his own age to date. Apparently some juvenile moron is the only person who would dare do him.

/rant

Wow. You're an asshole, aren't you.

Originally Posted by agzg

Wow, this is unnecessarily harsh and classist. CG2, ity?

Walmart wasn't mentioned, so no. Flip your PMs on though, would ya?

Originally Posted by DrPhil

Okay...this is a good time to ask why do a lot of (usually white) people say "trailer trash?"

I always found that to be classist and also implying that anything that's not white perfection must be "trailer trash."

It is complete classism against people who can't afford that house with the picket fence and who don't dress or act the way 'they' think people should. And I think it has some racism in it as well - minorities live poorly and well that's just expected, but WHITE people who live poorly have the option and therefore are just trash.

People aren't trash, people aren't 'trashy' no matter how much one dislikes seeing bra straps, double-wides, or whatever. And apparently according to DZTurtle, anorexia is trashy too. Yay for bashing mental illness!

Originally Posted by DrPhil

Just like Michael Jackson had to lie about his age and I still believe Beyonce is lying about hers. I don't care how many people claim they went to K-12 with Beyonce and saw her birth certificate.

Birther!

Originally Posted by agzg

I have no idea. I hate it. Lots of folks live in trailers. Also, I prefer not to call people trash, in general.

And, I hear Roma/Travellers referred to as "trailer trash" before, as well as members of various Native American nations (who, uh, don't have too much of a choice if they live on the reservation because the US really FUBARed that whole thing up), and I think it's completely ignorant of any cultural traditions/ramifications inherent in those types of communities.

As a side note, no, I don't really think this woman is 16. But if she is, I really hope she's actually entering the union of her own accord.

I've heard Roma/gypsies*/Travellers called names, though never trailer trash, and mostly in Europe where there was a higher presence. But I've almost never heard 'trailer trash' directed at non white people. Sure, plenty of slurs, insults, and general assumptions that the nonwhite people are terribly irresponsible, alcoholic, and lazy - oh. goodie- but the trash insult does seem to come from a place of 'you could do better, why aren't you like ME'

[agzg]

Originally Posted by Drolefille

Walmart wasn't mentioned, so no. Flip your PMs on though, would ya?

Ugh. That's like, work, or something. Done. I couldn't remember how to do it though. LOL.

Originally Posted by Drolefille

It is complete classism against people who can't afford that house with the picket fence and who don't dress or act the way 'they' think people should. And I think it has some racism in it as well - minorities live poorly and well that's just expected, but WHITE people who live poorly have the option and therefore are just trash.

People aren't trash, people aren't 'trashy' no matter how much one dislikes seeing bra straps, double-wides, or whatever. And apparently according to DZTurtle, anorexia is trashy too. Yay for bashing mental illness!

I've heard Roma/gypsies*/Travellers called names, though never trailer trash, and mostly in Europe where there was a higher presence. But I've almost never heard 'trailer trash' directed at non white people. Sure, plenty of slurs, insults, and general assumptions that the nonwhite people are terribly irresponsible, alcoholic, and lazy - oh. goodie- but the trash insult does seem to come from a place of 'you could do better, why aren't you like ME'

There are some similar communities in, Iowa? I think? And on the East Coast in various places. And people are jackholes to them, here, too.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by Drolefille

Walmart wasn't mentioned, so no.

rant/
LOL. I also hate Walmart but for different reasons. Walmart got lucky with this class action lawsuit. Realllllllll lucky. I agree with the Supreme Court's decision although I hate Walmart and know that this sets an awesome precedent for Walmart and other companies.
/rant

Originally Posted by Drolefille

It is complete classism against people who can't afford that house with the picket fence and who don't dress or act the way 'they' think people should. And I think it has some racism in it as well - minorities live poorly and well that's just expected, but WHITE people who live poorly have the option and therefore are just trash.

People aren't trash, people aren't 'trashy' no matter how much one dislikes seeing bra straps, double-wides, or whatever. And apparently according to DZTurtle, anorexia is trashy too. Yay for bashing mental illness!

I've heard Roma/gypsies*/Travellers called names, though never trailer trash, and mostly in Europe where there was a higher presence. But I've almost never heard 'trailer trash' directed at non white people. Sure, plenty of slurs, insults, and general assumptions that the nonwhite people are terribly irresponsible, alcoholic, and lazy - oh. goodie- but the trash insult does seem to come from a place of 'you could do better, why aren't you like ME'

Ditto.