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06-18-2011, 08:25 PM
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No, that's not the point. If the majority of people say they didn't vote in a way that is standard for women to receive a bid in the organization, she shouldn't get a bid, no matter how blandly inoffensive she is. If the wishes of the members are going to be overridden by the GA/alumnae/rush chair, why bother going through the fallacy of voting on PNMs?
Yeah, it sucks for the rushee, but the whole chapter shouldn't have to pay for something that one person decided and take a member they didn't want. One person tried to do a slip through, got called on their crap, and now has to explain to the rushee.
It's really hard to talk about how "okay" this is without getting too deeply into MS procedures, which of course are different for every group.
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If the girl is "blandly inoffensive" the chapter is not paying for the mistake, the girl is. Yes, she wouldn't have received a bid anyway, but that is far preferable than to receive one, get excited, then get it taken away.
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06-18-2011, 09:00 PM
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If the girl is "blandly inoffensive" the chapter is not paying for the mistake, the girl is. Yes, she wouldn't have received a bid anyway, but that is far preferable than to receive one, get excited, then get it taken away.
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You misinterpreted my post (you do that a lot). I meant that the whole chapter should not have to bear the mantle of "those bitches gave me a bid and then took it away!" when the whole chapter never gave her a bid in the first place, one misguided person took it upon themselves to do so.
I personally would not want a "pity bid" or a "OMG we didn't make quota" bid. If I wasn't good enough to be on a bid list after prefs, put on there by the majority of the chapter, I would rather go through COB and make sure they really want me for me, not for my warm body or because I'm pathetic.
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06-18-2011, 09:07 PM
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None of that matters if the girl is welcomed graciously and no one reveals anything about what happened. Also, I think the person responsible should be penalized.
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06-18-2011, 09:20 PM
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None of that matters if the girl is welcomed graciously and no one reveals anything about what happened.
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Yes, it does matter a great deal, IF she did not meet the requirements laid out by the chapter and national organization to receive a bid, and IF as DBB said, this prevented a woman from getting a bid somewhere else where she DID meet the requirements. How many MS sessions have you taken part in exactly?
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Also, I think the person responsible should be penalized.
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That's exactly what I said. They should have to explain to the girl why her bid is being rescinded. They should also have to explain to the chapter/Panhel why they thought they could pull this isht.
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06-18-2011, 09:42 PM
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Yes, it does matter a great deal, IF she did not meet the requirements laid out by the chapter and national organization to receive a bid, and IF as DBB said, this prevented a woman from getting a bid somewhere else where she DID meet the requirements. How many MS sessions have you taken part in exactly?
That's exactly what I said. They should have to explain to the girl why her bid is being rescinded. They should also have to explain to the chapter/Panhel why they thought they could pull this isht.
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Can you rescind a bid? I did not even know that was allowed.
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06-18-2011, 10:03 PM
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Yes, it does matter a great deal, IF she did not meet the requirements laid out by the chapter and national organization to receive a bid, and IF as DBB said, this prevented a woman from getting a bid somewhere else where she DID meet the requirements. How many MS sessions have you taken part in exactly?
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Which is why I specified initially that this girl is one of the blandly inoffensive and not someone the chapter blatantly does not want. 4 MS sessions, and yourself?
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That's exactly what I said. They should have to explain to the girl why her bid is being rescinded. They should also have to explain to the chapter/Panhel why they thought they could pull this isht.
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Well I don't know what I think the punishment should be. But your first suggestion punishes the girl far more than anyone else.
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06-19-2011, 12:17 PM
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Can you rescind a bid? I did not even know that was allowed.
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I guess that was the wrong wording. If the sorority never voted her in, and if she was put on the bid list by nefarious means, then she never technically had a bid to begin with. She needs to be informed of that.
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Which is why I specified initially that this girl is one of the blandly inoffensive and not someone the chapter blatantly does not want. 4 MS sessions, and yourself?
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Twice that and then some...but then again, I guess you do have 1 for each of your user names.
As I said, it's hard to say how "ok" this is without getting too technical and nosy. But I still say, no matter how "inoffensive" she was...if she didn't meet requirements, she shouldn't be given a bid.
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06-19-2011, 12:58 PM
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Just 1 user name and 4 recruitments during my collegiate experience.
And I agree, but just because a girl has been cut does not mean she doesn't meet the requirements of the sorority. At all.
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