NMs in letters.

[VandalSquirrel]

Originally Posted by Alumiyum

I didn't know any of that...and I can't imagine it would be changed either, just couldn't say for sure.

And I want more squirrels, too. I avoid items with letters for the most part (clothing wise anyway) since I have more than enough already, but I'd love some squirrels.

I am curious about the use of Armorial Bearings if it is still limited to clothes and jewelry. I got some stickers, you know the sheets they sell at college bookstores, on clearance a couple of years ago and have more than one Armorial Bearings sticker I never used, the others went on items I carry around. I could put it on my car but I don't think it would be visible and the back window is out since I have massive defrosting lines all over the back window. The other instances are wood, picture frame and another bookstore special, wooden painted sticker crest item.

I'd love a cardigan with the Armorial Bearings as it can be subtle and appropriate for various situations but I can only find American Apparel brand cardigans and it would be heinously ill fitting and not the quality I want for rocking the artistic legacy of Emily Helen Butterfield. The length and width is a no go since they are unisex, and it would make me look a hot mess. I checked all the vendors licensed through IHQ, and it is the same ill fitting Mr. Rogers nightmare.

Oh noes, Vineyard Vines has a tote that has subtle letters , double roses, and a SQUIRREL, we're doomed.

[AOII Angel]

Since AOII does not have a crest, my chapter didn't allow us to have roses before initiation. It's funny since they have absolutely no meaning. Anyway, AOII allows NMs to wear our letters and have anything with roses before initiation. We just don't have many open secrets for our NMs to lust after.

[agzg]

Originally Posted by VandalSquirrel

I am curious about the use of Armorial Bearings if it is still limited to clothes and jewelry.

Hmmm - is this in addition to fraternity materials (books, letters, website, etc etc?).

[VandalSquirrel]

Originally Posted by agzg

Hmmm - is this in addition to fraternity materials (books, letters, website, etc etc?).

I'm guessing using it in official capacity and for Alpha Gam business is a separate situation, than an individual initiated member wearing the crest.

I was looking online, I still would like a mug with the Armorial Bearings, but a tea cup and saucer would be even better. I'm just not finding one through a licensed vendor that fits my visual of my ideal mug.

[ChioLu]

When I went to college, pledges weren't allowed to wear the letters until initiated and knew the meaning. We could wear anything with "Chi O" or "Chi Omega" written out in script. Per our national HQ, this is now considered hazing (because it sets 1 group apart from the rest). I see their point, but it was kind of a big thing to get initiated and finally be able to wear the letters.

We still don't allow non-Chi Os to wear the crest, so that will never be on a date party t-shirt or mom's/dad's day item.

[BemoreLXA]

Originally Posted by ChioLu

When I went to college, pledges weren't allowed to wear the letters until initiated and knew the meaning. We could wear anything with "Chi O" or "Chi Omega" written out in script. Per our national HQ, this is now considered hazing (because it sets 1 group apart from the rest). I see their point, but it was kind of a big thing to get initiated and finally be able to wear the letters.

We still don't allow non-Chi Os to wear the crest, so that will never be on a date party t-shirt or mom's/dad's day item.

yeah. Thats not the rational per say with my HQ I'm not saying its hazing but I am kind of in different about associates wearing letters. I chose to wear my letters and give my little letters after initiation, while others wear them as soon as they associate

[MysticCat]

Originally Posted by ChioLu

When I went to college, pledges weren't allowed to wear the letters until initiated and knew the meaning. We could wear anything with "Chi O" or "Chi Omega" written out in script. Per our national HQ, this is now considered hazing (because it sets 1 group apart from the rest).

I know this has been brought up many times at GC, but by this definition, my fraternity mandates hazing in our General Regulations for Chapters, because they provide that only initiated brothers may wear the letters. So obviously, we do not consider it hazing to prohibit probationary members (pledges) from wearing the letters or anything with the coat of arms.

[Optimus Prime]

Originally Posted by MysticCat

I know this has been brought up many times at GC, but by this definition, my fraternity mandates hazing in our General Regulations for Chapters, because they provide that only initiated brothers may wear the letters. So obviously, we do not consider it hazing to prohibit probationary members (pledges) from wearing the letters or anything with the coat of arms.

This is how it is in Alpha Xi Delta as well. Only initiated members are allowed to wear the crest.

[aephi alum]

I guess we haze too, as our new members aren't allowed to wear letters...

However, our new member pin is our crest with the Greek letters removed.

To each GLO their own.