2 Fraternity Brothers Caught Breaking Into Sorority House

[ASTalumna06]

Originally Posted by DeltaBetaBaby

So what do you feel is an appropriate consequence?

I don't have a specific one in mind. But this whole "Boys will be boys" .. or "Greeks will be Greeks" mentality will probably, one day, lead to a more serious offense.

It usually does.

[Alumiyum]

Originally Posted by ASTalumna06

I don't have a specific one in mind. But this whole "Boys will be boys" .. or "Greeks will be Greeks" mentality will probably, one day, lead to a more serious offense.

It usually does.

IMO it's not about Greeks or boys...more "kids will be kids". And kids do dumb shit. They should be punished, they should be sent the message that there's no excuse for it, but for things like this (where it's pretty obvious they were just being morons) it shouldn't ruin their futures.

Now I do think probation is a good idea. If they ARE the type that think they're above the law they can land back in jail, and serves them right.

[DeltaBetaBaby]

Originally Posted by ASTalumna06

I don't have a specific one in mind. But this whole "Boys will be boys" .. or "Greeks will be Greeks" mentality will probably, one day, lead to a more serious offense.

It usually does.

Right, but the severity of the punishment should match the severity of the crime, and I don't really think that we can judge that without more context around campus norms, and/or how "self-policing" this Greek system may be. I don't think they should get off scott-free, I just don't think it's fair to make them the example if this type of thing is generally no big deal.

As you said upthread, your campus didn't call the police every time something was stolen.

[DaffyKD]

Many years ago, long before home alarm systems, a fraternity broke into our house. They were dressed all in black, burst into the bedrooms, pulled down blankets and took pictures. The girls were in various states of nightwear. They cut the phone lines (we only had landlines in those days) and used them to tie a bar across the housemother's room so she could not get out. The trauma suffered by some was very severe. When the police went to the fraternity to talk to the guys, one idiot responded that it was a sorority house so it was fair game. When asked how he would feel it it had been his sister who was woken up by a bunch of guys taking pictures he responded he would be off the wall irate.

Breaking and entering whether a joke or not is not harmless. It is a criminal act. it is time we stop justifying actions as "simple college pranks" whether it is breaking and entering, sexual assault, hazing, giving alcohol to minors or....

DaffyKD

[AznSAE]

they were probably too scared to admit that it was really a panty raid, haha.

[33girl]

It really depends on what the relationship was between these two groups as to whether it was a "harmless" prank.

All sororities have some fraternities that they are more comfy with than others, some they're getting to know, some that they're neutral on, some they just don't like and some that creep them out. 1-2 the sorority probably wouldn't care and would find it funny, 3 it depends, and 4-5 they would be upset and freaked out.

Without knowing that relationship, it's impossible to tell what the intent/result was. (The comment about "getting stuff on them" may have been taken completely out of context.) But to say that every fraternity will be treated the same just isn't true.

[Kevin]

Originally Posted by 33girl

It really depends on what the relationship was between these two groups as to whether it was a "harmless" prank.

This. Unless you know something about the chapters involved, you don't know whether these guys were breaking in to do something really bad or just to play a harmless prank.

On the one hand, charging these fellas with burglary or something like that, just 'cuz, could ruin their lives. On the other, they could deserve to have their lives ruined. I figure it'll all work out in the end.

[VandalSquirrel]

Considering school was out, the women aren't living in the house and the house mom is there alone, harmless prank isn't good enough for me. The house mom would be the one to make the discovery and the women aren't going to be back for three months, so it isn't like the sorority of women are being pranked by fraternity men, it is the house mom being pranked by two guys who happen to be in a fraternity.

The video mentioned they tried to cut the electricity (wtf) and there was a lot of damage, enough for them to be booked for felony residential burglary and conspiracy according to the video. The public documents list it as a 3rd degree felony for felony attempt & conspiracy, so no misdemeanors like paying a fine or a written apology will likely cut it. If they haven't previously been naughty they probably won't get what I read of basic sentencing of 3 years for a 3rd or 18 months for a 4th degree felony and the possibility of a $5,000 fine, in addition to other costs. At least they aren't hamming it up in their mugshots.

Uh, is this the guy who thinks a written apology is acceptable?

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