Dartmouth sororities announce new policy

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by 33girl

I'm just saying I think the sororities may be overestimating the impact this action will have.

In a lot of ways the result doesn't matter. The fact that they're standing up and saying 'No' together does.

[Alumiyum]

Originally Posted by Drolefille

In a lot of ways the result doesn't matter. The fact that they're standing up and saying 'No' together does.

I'm all for the message they're trying to send, but I don't think this is the way to go about it. Certainly not with a "24 hour" rule.

[flirt5721]

http://thedartmouth.com/2011/05/20/news/panhell

[33girl]

I don't like this part at all.

If the alleged victim is unaffiliated, the Panhellenic Council as a whole will contact the president of the organization to which the alleged perpetrator belongs, according to the policy.

I would be somewhat pissed if a group that I either chose not to be a part of (or that didn't choose me to be a part of them) was in effect filing charges without my consent to satisfy their agenda.

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by 33girl

I don't like this part at all.

If the alleged victim is unaffiliated, the Panhellenic Council as a whole will contact the president of the organization to which the alleged perpetrator belongs, according to the policy.

I would be somewhat pissed if a group that I either chose not to be a part of (or that didn't choose me to be a part of them) was in effect filing charges without my consent to satisfy their agenda.

Um, if you're unaffiliated, why do you care if Panhel isn't having an event with them anyway?

There are no charges filed. Basically they're saying that the fraternities can't slack off because a victim is not in a sorority. Otherwise the chapters are creating two classes of women - those protected, and those not. In this way, all are protected.

[33girl]

I = an unaffiliated woman.

#1. I might be friends with the members of this fraternity and not want to see anything negative happen to them. Which is why I would care about them not having mixers. (As if this is only about not having mixers. It will definitely get across campus that they've been "censured" [for lack of a better word] by Panhel and that can have a negative impact on the group in many ways.) Which leads to...

#2. What happened may have been misinterpreted. I should not have to go and explain to a bunch of women I have no affiliation with the details of something that is none of their business.

#3. I don't care to have my name or person associated with any sort of "discipline" by a group of sorority women.

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by 33girl

I = an unaffiliated woman.

#1. I might be friends with the members of this fraternity and not want to see anything negative happen to them. Which is why I would care about them not having mixers. (As if this is only about not having mixers. It will definitely get across campus that they've been "censured" [for lack of a better word] by Panhel and that can have a negative impact on the group in many ways.) Which leads to...

#2. What happened may have been misinterpreted. I should not have to go and explain to a bunch of women I have no affiliation with the details of something that is none of their business.

Which is why the requirement is 'investigation' not 'boot the bum out.' The point is fraternities cannot ignore assault, but must at the least look into it. As the article notes, most national orgs appear to have some sort of procedure and the locals are creating/have created them. if any of them read "upon sorority threats, evict the bastard" I'd be very very surprised.

Additionally at no point does the supposed victim have any requirement to go to Panhel. Seems like they can talk to the fraternity if it's needed to clear things up and problem solved. This is pretty much what should happen if there's an incident anyway. "Hey no, it was no big deal, yada yada yada." "ok, cool wanted to be sure you weren't hurt." or whatever.

#3. I don't care to have my name or person associated with any sort of "discipline" by a group of sorority women.

Then you probably won't bring the matter to Panhel in the first place. You'll note it says that they will only respond if the matter is brought to them.

It's not really about being in a sorority or not, it's just the best leverage and organization that the women have.